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    NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    I've recently become aware of a computer application called the NeuroProgrammer. I suggest anyone who needs help in their life can learn to help themselves easily and gain a much more positive outlook on the world around us. Life is hard, and sometimes much harder than it has to be. We impose many problems on ourselves, unintentionally, and slip into cycles we wish we could break out of, but find difficult to do so. I can't begin to tell you what kind of impact it has had on my life, and I hope that it can help someone else.

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    The program is very difficult to explain fully and effectively in one forum post, but it does help nearly any problem one could have, or at least, helps one view their problems in a more managable light, which can be the first step to overcoming them! I hope someone out there finds this useful![/url]
    "Do you wrestle with dreams? Do you contend with shadows? Do you move in a kind of sleep? Time has slipped away. Your life is stolen. You tarried with trifles, Victim of your folly."
    <br />-Frank Herbert, Dune

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    NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    Hmmm...

    end long and painful psychological disturbances such as Depression, Guilt, Stage Fright, Insomnia, Social Anxiety, Unhealthy Eating Habits, Migraine Headaches and much much more. You can even increase your IQ by as much as 30 points!
    I have to confess I'm a little skeptical about these claims...

    Do you have any personal knowledge of/experience with this product, JiggaTrinity?

  3. NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    The claim that it will increase your IQ by up to 30% sounds interesting but also makes me believe that there must be some snake oil around still. I know the brain works on electricity but I would have to see the results before I would try anything like that for anything other that the novelty of something new.

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    understandable

    I myself have personally used this program, and found it suprisingly helpful. It's claims are extreme, and I have heard the analogy of "snake oil" more than once now. Good news it seems is always harder to accept than bad. The website has full documentation, explanation of the technoligies and techniques used to attain desired results, and it offers a two week free trial, if you still have any doubts after trying it, no one's going to come after you and make you buy it ^_^


    Increasing the IQ by up to 30 points I believe was the claim, not 30%.

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    All the information is on the site, and a rather lengthly documentation is included in the trial/application. All I can say is you'll never really know unless you've tried it. I've found myself in a better mood, sleeping better, eating healthier, and generally just more comfortable and less stressed after regular use with this product. I know it sounds impossible or silly, but all I can say is try to keep an open mind and just try it out. Think of it as a type of induced meditation instead of a wonder cure all. I hope this information helps!
    &quot;Do you wrestle with dreams? Do you contend with shadows? Do you move in a kind of sleep? Time has slipped away. Your life is stolen. You tarried with trifles, Victim of your folly.&quot;
    <br />-Frank Herbert, Dune

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    NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    You're right - it's not 30% - 30 IQ points is TWO standard deviations on an IQ scale, which is more like 67%.

    If this is some sort of meditation aid, then I can buy some of the claims about mood and maybe sleep and appetite (since presumably it has some stress-reduction or anxiety-reduction benefits) but there is nothing that I know of that is going to increase IQ - especially not by anything close to 30 points.

    Making such outlandish claims doesn't help the credibility of a product - it just causes me to doubt that the other claims it makes are true.

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    NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    All I can tell you is it's not my program, so if you want to learn more about it talk to them or go to the forums. I was just posting it here hoping to help someone, not argue about it.

    Here's the information on the studies regarding the IQ booster:

    http://www.transparentcorp.com/produ...arnmore/iq.php

    The lower your IQ to begin with, the more results you're likely to see.

    From the documentation:

    "Drs. Siegfried and Susan Othmer found, in a controlled study, that beta training in the 15-18 range produces average IQ increases of 23 percent. In cases where the starting IQ value is less than 100, the average IQ increase was 33 points! They also found significant improvements in memory, reading and arithmetic. In a one year follow-up, trainees showed major improvements in self-esteem, concentration and self-expression."


    "In one study, a group of 8 students significantly increased their GPA over a control group by using audio and visual stimulation."

    From the further reading section on the documentation of the IQ booster:

    Academic Performance Enhancement with Photic Stimulation and EDR Feedback. Thomas Budzynski, Ph.D., John Jordy, M.Ed., Helen Kogan Budzynski, Ph.D., Hsin-Yi Tang, M.S., and Keith Claypoole, Ph.D.

    Exceptional Results with 'Exceptional Children' Lynda Thompson, Ph.D. and Michael Thompson, M.D., Journal Of NeuroTherapy

    Electroencephalographic Biofeedback of SMR and Beta for Treatment of Attention Deficit Disorders in a Clinical Setting, Lubar, J. O., and J.F. Lubar. Biofeedback and Self Regulation 9, no. 1 (1984) 1-23

    Righting the Rhythms of Reason: EEG Biofeedback Training as a Therapeutic Modality in a Clinical Office Setting. Tansey, M.A., Medical Psychotherapy 3 (1990): 57-68
    &quot;Do you wrestle with dreams? Do you contend with shadows? Do you move in a kind of sleep? Time has slipped away. Your life is stolen. You tarried with trifles, Victim of your folly.&quot;
    <br />-Frank Herbert, Dune

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    NeuroProgrammer, working to Mentally heal and help

    Quote Originally Posted by JiggaTrinity
    All I can tell you is it's not my program, so if you want to learn more about it talk to them or go to the forums. I was just posting it here hoping to help someone, not argue about it.
    My apologies, JiggaTrinity. It wasn't clear from your earlier posts if you were trying to market the device and my comments were meant to say that if so it might improve the perceptions of credibility to tone down the claims a bit.

    Thank you for posting those articles - I will check out the studies referenced when I get time. I would note, however, that what comes to mind immediately is something called "regression toward the mean", where the farther away from the average a score is, the more it is likely to move on retesting - thus, the finding that lower IQ scores change more than higher ones may reflect that statistical effect.

    Also, it is important to remember that IQ scores are estimates of intelligence which can be affected by attitude, mood, and verbal/reading ability, so interventions which affect those factors amy seem to improve IQ because they affect the tests used to measure IQ, rather than providing a true boost to intelligence.

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    Wait

    I don't know if the post above is meant to be sarcastic about the two standard deviations meaning actually 67% increase. The deviation scale for IQ is not the same. I think what im hearing is a 2 point increase on the actual scale we use, and a 30 point increase on the percentile scale which wasn't used after the 1960's. 30 actual point increase maybe likely in someone who is low IQ, but are we talking long term- I dont think so.
    The average woman would rather have
    <br />beauty than brains, because the average
    <br /> man can see better than he can think.

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    Re: Wait

    Quote Originally Posted by fleabag711
    I don't know if the post above is meant to be sarcastic about the two standard deviations meaning actually 67% increase. The deviation scale for IQ is not the same. I think what im hearing is a 2 point increase on the actual scale we use, and a 30 point increase on the percentile scale which wasn't used after the 1960's. 30 actual point increase maybe likely in someone who is low IQ, but are we talking long term- I dont think so.
    Hi, Fleabag. I'm sorry but I'm confused by your post.

    The website claims:
    Numerous studies have found that brainwave stimulation can greatly increase or enhance cognitive abilities.

    Drs. Siegfried and Susan Othmer found, in a controlled study, that beta training in the 15-18 range produces average IQ increases of 23 percent. In cases where the starting IQ value is less than 100, the average IQ increase was 33 points! They also found significant improvements in memory, reading and arithmetic. In a one year follow-up, trainees showed major improvements in self-esteem, concentration and self-expression.

    Michael Taney used a similar protocol to increase 11 - 19hz in the brains of his subjects. He reported a 19 point average increase in IQ.

    In yet another study, 8 students undergoing audio-visual stimulation outperformed a control group and significantly increased their GPA after regular treatment. GPA for the 8 students continued to rise even after treatment, while the group that did not receive treatment saw their GPAs decline.

    The Neuro-Programmer IQ/Intelligence Increase Special Session combines the research and methods from many incredibly successful studies on enhancing cognitive abilities with brainwave entrainment or neurofeedback. The Neuro-Programmer increases specific bands of brainwaves over a period of 41 minutes to improve concentration, focus, memory, mental speed, academic performance and IQ.
    First, I don't know where to begin with these claims but they strike me as outrageous, to sat the least. Let me take one point: if the research design and methodology has any validity at all, why would the control group show a decline in GPA? What on earth does that mean?

    As to the point about "the deviation scale for IQ" not being the same and the "percentile scale" not being used after the 1960s, I don't know what you're talking about here. The term "IQ" referes to a standard score which transforms raw scores on an intelligence test to a standardized scale with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The average IQ range is then defined as 85 - 115, plus or minus one standard deviation.

    When you say, "I think what I'm hearing is a 2 point increase on the actual scale we use", I don't know ehere that comes from -- see the excerpt from the website posted above -- they are not talking about 2-point gains there at all.

  10. #10

    True

    Yes, it is true that the brainwave therapies really work! It has been proving by the people who use it, but I'm referring to the history of IQ scale, and it is likely that whoever makes a claim of 37% increase is talking about percentile scale which wasnt used after 1960 but the question remains whether they chose to use it? I will find a link that can support this as soon as I can.
    Fleabag711
    The average woman would rather have
    <br />beauty than brains, because the average
    <br /> man can see better than he can think.

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