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    Is dysthymia for good?

    i keep coming back to wondering if i have had dysthymia. i don't know the answer. i've been having some ups and downs lately, after a short period of feeling amazing. i never had so much energy in my life. that seems to have gone for the moment.

    if a person were to have dysthymia, does this mean you're stuck with it for the rest of your life? can it be completely be recovered from like major depression? or will it always be something that will be there and will need to be managed through cbt, medication and exercise?
    ~ our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising each time we fall - confucius
    ~ it is the journey, not the destination, that matters
    ~ keep hanging on, the sun will come shining through for you again

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    Not in the sense that you'll always feel low or that you can't learn to manage it, no.

    I think it helps to consider vulnerability to dysthymia or depression (or anxiety, etc.) as part of your personality... and a part that's not all bad either. The same things that make you empathic, sensitive to others, questioning of your own interpretations, reactions, and behaviors at times - all these things can make you vulnerable to mood disorders but they also make you the kind of person that others seek out to spend time with, to be a friend, or a life-partner. What you need to do is to identify the negative thinking patterns that lead you into low moods and to identify the specific triggers for those low moods in your case, and then to learn ways to counter them - both behavioral and cognitive.

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    I've wondered the same thing. It seems I feel good for awhile and then the smallest comment can send me on a tailspin. It feels so overwhelming and I get so tired of the ups and downs. I can't imagine spending the rest of my life this way.

    But that isn't offerring any constructive advice. I guess I just want to commiserate. So I don't know what the solution is but I think David had a good response.

    and take care,

    jm

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    thanks david. it certainly is a mixed condition isn't it? i have learned to see the positive aspects of sensitivity, and now that i know of it, i am glad to have this trait. i know i can manage the lows but sometimes i just get tired of things not coming naturally, that it's work.

    mary, have you been diagnosed with dysthymia? or are you wondering whether you have it?
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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    It seems I feel good for awhile and then the smallest comment can send me on a tailspin. It feels so overwhelming and I get so tired of the ups and downs. I can't imagine spending the rest of my life this way.
    That's what CBT (cognitive restructuring) is for... to help you learn ways to stop that tailspin so you don't have to repeat the same old self-defeating patterns for the rest of your life. It takes work, practice, and a certain amount of vigilance, especially in the beginning.

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    mary, have you been diagnosed with dysthymia? or are you wondering whether you have it?
    No, I guess I was just identifying with your reference to "ups and downs", whether or not you can recover and if this is something you have to live with and manage for the rest of your life.

    Lately, I'm beginning to wonder if this is just who I am. I think I'll never change. I've been comparing myself to other people and I've been feeling like such a loser. And I know I shouldn't do that but it's hard not to. I have a habit of imagining what others are thinking of me. I feel slight, barely there, half awake, distant and out to lunch, just barely getting by.

    I tried talking to someone a few weeks ago. I went on two visits but it just didn't feel right. How do you find a counsellor/therapist that you like and is able to help you. I wish you could meet with someone ahead of time for 10 or 15 minutes before committing to an hour long session?

    Anyway, I've gotten a little off topic, sorry.

    Take care,

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    I went on two visits but it just didn't feel right. How do you find a counsellor/therapist that you like and is able to help you. I wish you could meet with someone ahead of time for 10 or 15 minutes before committing to an hour long session?
    Sometimes it takes a bit of trial and error. I've had questions about a "trial session" before myself and I have done it once or twice but the reality is that, like many professionals, my income is time-based, so doing that doesn't help me pay the rent.

    If you've been to someone you just don't feel comfortable with, try someone else. Usually, with a bit of patience, you can find someone you "fit" with.

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    How do you find a counsellor/therapist that you like and is able to help you.
    JM,

    I think like David said, a lot of it is trial and error. I honestly don't think that there is one quick answer to your question but I can tell you that in my experience I have seen my fair share of counsellors, therapists, social workers, psychiatrists and a psychologist and really it all came down to what worked for me and what I felt comfortable with. I does take some time to find that right match because like anything profession in this world, some are great, some are good and some are....not so good (being polite ).

    I do want to say that I hope you don't give up your search to find someone because when you do find that right match, you will know it and it will feel just right. The match will be made and you will be glad that you stuck it out and found them. To offer a ray of hope, I can say that it has finally happened for me and although it took a while I am glad that I kept looking and didn't give up or settle for less than.

    Take care, JM

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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    Quote Originally Posted by just mary View Post
    Lately, I'm beginning to wonder if this is just who I am. I think I'll never change. I've been comparing myself to other people and I've been feeling like such a loser. And I know I shouldn't do that but it's hard not to. I have a habit of imagining what others are thinking of me. I feel slight, barely there, half awake, distant and out to lunch, just barely getting by.
    I can relate to so much of what you wrote here. I really think these feelings are just part of depression. The hopelessness that comes across. The feeling like a loser, which you are definitely not.

    I think/hope you can keep trying to find someone to talk to about all of this. I believe you can change. It's a lot of hard work and soul-searching and sometimes I feel like I'm going backwards, but at this moment I honestly believe what I'm learning in therapy is slowing sinking in.

    Don't give up on finding someone to talk to. I want you to feel better.


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    Re: Is dysthymia for good?

    I was diagnosed with dysthymia when I was 17 and now I'm 32 and it's still with me. It goes through phases, probably like most things - where things are really good and I think/believe/hope I'm going to make it, and I go through phases where I'm at the far end of the other way of thinking. I've been doing really well for the 9 months - I credit that to my new therapist that I started seeing in June who actually "gets me". I've told her I'm not naive enough to think I'll never relapse, and I've been told I'll have it for life, but I think even if I "have" it - I can at least manage it so it doesn't interfere with my life to the degree it has in the past.

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