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Dr. Debbie Joffe Ellis: "Our bond became stronger and finally we married. We had an enormous
amount in common. We cherished life. I still do. I am grateful for my life and the good things in it.
What brings me a great joy is to contribute to others, and I find very gratifying for me when I give
presentations, and workshops and demonstrations. Like Al, I find happiness helping people to
discover happiness through REBT and its tools."

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