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David Baxter PhD

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Growing Up with a Parent with Mental Illness
by Candida Fink MD, Bipolar Blog
December 16, 2008

The battle to fight stigma in the outside world is important but can?t be done without first facing it at home.

I grew up in a household with mental illness in a parent. The illness was never fully identified or named, yet it decimated our family life. I was enormously relieved to realize, over time, what was going on in my family when I was growing up. It helped me understand my parent more and to tell my family story in a way that is less judgmental and critical and more compassionate ? toward my parent with mental illness and toward me and my siblings and my other parent. As a professional and as someone who lived with this, I feel strongly about the need for honest, open communication in families when a parent is struggling with mental illness.

Growing up with a parent with mental illness impacts children at many levels, but too often the effects on children and the children?s responses are pushed to the side. Sometimes there is simply no time or energy left in the family system after taking care of the parent who is struggling with mental illness. More often, it is simply too hard and too scary to deal with.

In my practice, I treat mostly children and adolescents ? but in some situations I have also worked with the whole family ? including a parent with mental illness. And even when I treat just the child, there is often mental illness in the family as well. The challenges to children in this setting grow from every facet of the illness ? from the genetic vulnerability to illness to the affected parent?s emotional skills and availability throughout the child?s development; from drained financial resources to the non-affected parent?s exhaustion and grief; from instability and conflict in the home to stigma in the community and often extended family.

To manage the risk factors and mitigate potential difficulties, the first step is to identify the presence of the illness and put the problem on the table for discussion. Without taking this step, families talk in circles and euphemisms ? such as ?Mommy is having a tough time today? and ?Daddy is just not feeling himself.? This limits opportunities to solve problems and deal directly with the full range of emotions.

Several factors may contribute to a family?s inability to take the first step of identifying and discussing the situation:

  • They don?t have a diagnosis yet. Without a name for what?s going on, they don?t know how to initiate a discussion. Often patients and their families have spent a long time looking for a diagnosis before it finally comes. They simply do not understand enough about what?s happening to discuss it.
  • They are too afraid to discover the truth. Patients and their loved ones may go for years watching symptoms grow worse and more painful, but they avoid getting help due to stigma and fear.
  • Patients or their loved ones lack insight. Insight is the ability to recognize that something is wrong. Sometimes patients just don?t see the symptoms and won?t seek help to get a diagnosis.
All of these situations create enormous difficulties for families trying to start a conversation about mental illness with their children.

In working with families who are trying to talk to their children about mental illness in a parent, I rely on two principles ? transparency and developmental appropriateness. Transparency (openness) and honesty are essential for any conversation to work. Too much beating around the bush or ?reframing? will not work ? kids are perceptive, and they know when things aren?t right. Telling them that a parent is ?tired? or ?having a hard time? will fly for only a short period of time. If the symptoms of mental illness are impacting the family, then the fact that it is an illness and it is real needs to be clear.

Kids can spend a lot of time trying to figure out what they have done wrong to bring on the illness or what they should be doing to fix things. We need to be very clear with kids that they aren?t at fault and they aren?t going to be able to fix it.

Within transparency, though, is the necessity for using developmentally appropriate language and concepts. You will talk differently to a seven-year-old than you will to a teenager. The younger the child, the more general the discussion needs to be. Above all, parents want to practice listening to their children about this as much as talking to them about it. We want to make it safe for kids to ask any question they may have or express their own feelings about what is going on. A primary goal is to reduce stigma in the intimate family setting. The battle to fight stigma in the outside world is important but can?t be done without first facing it at home.

Understanding that the parent is not the enemy ? but the illness is ? changes things completely and evolves into a more helpful and therefore hopeful story.
 

Sparrow

Member
We need to be very clear with kids that they aren?t at fault and they aren?t going to be able to fix it.
I wish I knew that when I was a kid instead of dreaming to fix everything into some sort of happy happy.
Something the article (albeit short) did not mention was the attached stigma and stereotypes from a child's perspective. When I was a little kid 40 years ago, I was terribly embarrassed around my friends.
Nothing was politically correct at all, I felt black and marked with shame but that was then.
Attitudes generally being different today, I feel there is still a carryover from days gone by.
All one has to do to see it... is watch people (and the kids).
 

2LA

Member
I estimate that 'the mojority' (at least 51%) of us 'parents' are mentally challenged. That 'every' parent (and potential parent) should try to find his/her mental capacity or lack of for the wellbeing (including 'itself') of all concerned.

Is there an online test for something like this?

THX & God Bless all!
 

2LA

Member
I guess 'any test' that'll give one an indication that one isn't 'on the right track.'

I found this so far:



pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/21/13-a 'Serious Psychological Distress' Affects Millions of Americans



Serious Psychological Distress among Adults Aged 50 or Older
oas.samhsa.gov/2k8/SPDolder/SPDolderadults.cfm




counsellingresource.com/quizzes/depression-anxiety/index.html Anxiety and Depression Test


I'm lost
 

Jazzey

Account Closed
Member
Hi 2LA,

The best way to answer the question I think you're asking, is to see a professionally trained and accredited psychologist or psychiatrist.

Why are you looking for online tests? What exactly are you hoping to find out, or analyze?

I took the liberty of linking the addresses according to what you've already posted 2LA. If I didn't grab the right ones, let me know.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/21/13

Aging SPD: Serious Psychological Distress Among Adults Aged 50 or Older: 2005 2006, SAMHSA, Office of Applied Studies

K10 Anxiety and Depression Test of Psychological Distress
 
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2LA,

I grew up in a family with a mother with mental illness and an extremely emotionally distant father and I can say from personal experience that it is a very difficult thing to deal with.

My mother's siblings tried forcing her to get help as did her own children, i excluded myself from this because i knew my mother's state of mind and that trying to force her would only be counter productive because of the stress it would cause her. She had two breakdowns, when she was hospitalized for the mandatory 48 hr observation period and each time they released her.

When I heard that my family was trying to find another way to have her forcibly treated, which isn't possible according to the mental health act unless they are proven to be a risk to themselves or someone else, I sat down with her and told her how I felt about watching her go through it on her own and how worried i was about her drinking and that that was why everyone else in the family was so concerned.

I talked openly to her about the times when she was drinking and when she beat us when we were children and how I had forgiven her for it but I knew she hadn't forgiven herself and that she was drinking to mask some deep seeded pain and that my siblings felt the same way and they just didn't know what to do for her.

I was only able to approach this openly and honestly with her in a compassionate manner because I had dealt with these issues in counseling and anger management and when she understood that these were my true feelings she broke down and cried. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life but at the same time the most rewarding.

We went to see a doctor at the hospital through the E.R. that day and I was very disappointed with the therapists outright and callous questions of why do you think you are hearing voices ect. She ran out into the parking lot in tears and I had some words with the therapist and commented on his demeanor in a not to polite manner. My mother took a cab home before i could stop her and I went back into the hospital and scolded the therapist for is behavior and exclaimed my disappointment to his supervisor after explaining what had happened.

When I got to my mother she had already made an appointment with her doctor and belayed my fears by telling me she understood my feelings and that she was going to get help. Since then she has been treated for bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia she has been taking medication and has gone for cognitive therapy and is doing very well.

There are still issues in my family that we have yet to deal with and myself and my eldest sister are the only one's who've gone for counseling. And other things have happened between us since that we are still dealing with that weren't caused by our mother's illness and we have yet to come to an understanding about our father's emotional distance and the way he treats us. Nothing is perfect in this world but I believe that being openly honest with ourselves and each other is the key for progress and I hope that the love between us will overshadow any conflicts that we may have so we can find resolution and the strength we need for ourselves and each other.

As for my mom she has told me about the source of her stress from sexual abuse she suffered at the hands of a relative and she's still working to overcome it. These scars are deep and weight bearing but I think the key is being there for each other.
 

Andy

MVP
I'd like to say that although the stigma of mental illness still has quite a ways to go, I am glad that more and more families are talking about it. It seems to slowly becoming okay to talk about.

When I was little I was taught to lie and hide hospital stays etc. It always made me feel first off-bad for lying all the time but like I really had something I needed to hide and be ashamed of.

Anyway, :goodposting:
 
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