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David Baxter PhD

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Meta analysis debunks psychopathy-violence link
By Karen Franklin, Ph.D.
September 3, 2010

No clear winner among violence risk tools

If you are looking for the best tool to assess someone's risk for violence, the array may seem confusing. Lots of acronyms, lots of statistical data about AUC's (Areas Under the Curve) and the like. What do do?

No worries. As it turns out, they're pretty much interchangeable. That is the bottom-line finding of a groundbreaking meta-analytic study in the APA journal Psychological Bulletin by three academic researchers from the United Kingdom.

The University of Nottingham researchers used sophisticated statistical tools to meta-analyze multiple studies on the accuracy of nine leading violence risk assessment tools. All nine turned out to have similarly moderate predictive accuracy, with none clearly leading the pack. And none - the scholars warned - were sufficiently accurate for courts to rely upon them as a primary basis for decision-making in forensic cases requiring "a high level of predictive accuracy, such as preventive detention."

Widely touted PCL-R's "Factor 1" a bust
In a result with potentially momentous implications for forensic practitioners, the researchers found that Factor 1 of the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) does not predict violence. As you know, Factor 1 purports to measure the core constellation of a psychopathic personality (superficial charm, manipulativeness, lack of empathy, etc.). When introduced in court, evidence of psychopathy has an enormously prejudicial impact on criminal offenders.

But, the PCL-R's much-ballyhooed ability to predict certain types of violence owes only to the instrument's second factor, according to the meta-analysis by researchers Min Yang, Steve Wong, and Jeremy Coid. And that's no surprise. After all, Factor 2 measures the criminogenic factors (criminality, irresponsibility, impulsivity, history of delinquency, etc.) that even a fifth-grader knows are bad signs for future law-abiding citizenship. It's like saying that a criminal past predicts a criminal future.

In my experience, the Factor 1 items - the ones purporting to measure an underlying personality profile - are the ones more likely to be inflated by some evaluators. That's because many of these items are pretty subjective. Glib? Superficially charming? If you don't like a guy - and/or he doesn't like you - you are more likely to rate these negative items as present. That's one of my hypotheses for the large evaluator differences and partisan allegiance effects found with the PCL-R in forensic practice.

Cumulatively, the emerging PCL-R findings beg the question:

Why introduce the Psychopathy Checklist in court if other violence risk tools work just as well, without the implicitly prejudicial effect of labeling someone as a "psychopath"?

Psychopathy evidence skyrocketing in juvenile cases

Despite (or perhaps because of, in some cases) its prejudicial impact, the construct of psychopathy is increasingly being introduced in court cases involving juveniles. It is often used to infer that a youth should get a longer sentence because he or she is dangerous and not amenable to treatment.

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Source: Viljoen et al, Psychology, Public Policy, and Law (2010)

The first systematic review, published in the current issue of Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, found the use of psychopathy evidence against juveniles skyrocketing in both Canada and the United States. Psychopathy evidence is typically introduced when juveniles are being sentenced as adults and in sex offender commitment cases. It is also introduced in a variety of other cases, including ones involving disputed confessions, competency to stand trial, and criminal responsibility, report authors Jodi Viljoen, Emily MacDougall, Nathalie Gagnon, and Kevin Douglas.

In one egregious case showing how judges may improperly use evidence of psychopathy, a Canadian judge reasoned that a youth's "psychopathic device [sic] score" showed that under his "shy and unassuming" exterior lurked "a monster" that "at any time ... may well come alive." As a result, the judge sentenced this minor to an adult penitentiary.

Such inferences of unremitting danger and untreatability are improper. A large proportion of youths measured high in psychopathy score lower on psychopathy instruments once they mature. And so-called psychopathic youths are far from untreatable; in one recent study by Michael Caldwell and colleagues, after intensive treatment youths who scored high in psychopathy were actually less likely to recidivate than a comparison group in a juvenile jail.

"[T]he introduction of psychopathy evidence into juvenile forensic contexts has been somewhat rushed and premature at times," the authors conclude.

Have risk prediction tools hit the ceiling?
Researchers have been toiling for almost five decades to perfect risk prediction tools. Unfortunately, they keep running into an insurmountable obstacle: A large proportion of violence is situational. It's affected by environmental context, not just qualities internal to the individual. And not only that, but it is always extremely hard to predict a rare event.

Based on their meta-analytic findings, the UK researchers say maybe it's time to stop searching for the holy grail. Maybe we've reached the ceiling of predictive efficacy.
Violent behavior is the result of the individual interacting with the immediate environment. Although it may be possible to improve on our understanding and predicting what an individual may do in hypothetical situations, it will be much more difficult to predict the situation that an individual actually encounters in the open community. Even predicting violence within an institutional environment is difficult, where the assessor has much more information about that environment.
Instead, they say, it is time to turn our attentions to interventions that can reduce risk:
Building a better model of violence prediction should not be the sole aim of risk prediction research, which is just one link in the risk assessment-prediction-management triad that aims to achieve violence reduction and improved mental health…The risk, need and responsivity principles derived from the theory of the psychology of criminal conduct provide a useful theoretical framework for risk reduction intervention. Appropriate risk assessment can identify high-risk individuals in need of more intensive management and intervention…. Using tools with dynamic risk predictors to assess risk can identify appropriate changeable treatment targets linked to violence.
The studies included in the meta-analysis were from six countries: the United Kingdom (11), Canada (9), Sweden (3), the United States (3), Holland (2), and Germany (1). The instruments included the PCL-R, the PCL:SV, the HCR-20, the VRAG, the OGRS, the RM2000V, the LSI/LSI-R, the GSIR, and the VRS, as well as seven instrument subscales: PCL-R Factor 1 and Factor 2, the 10-item Historical subscale, the five-item Clinical subscale, and the five-item Risk Management subscale of the HCR-20; and the Static and Dynamic scales of the VRS.

Dr. Wong, former Research Director at the Regional Psychiatric Centre in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, studied psychopathy and high-risk offenders for 25 years and developed the Violent Risk Scale and the Violence Risk Scale - Sexual Offender Version before becoming a special professor at the Institute of Mental Health at the University of Nottingham. Dr. Yang is a professor of medical statistics with the Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences at the University of Nottingham. And Dr. Coid, Director of the Forensic Psychiatry Research Unit, is principal investigator of the UK Home Office’s Prisoner Cohort Study and also studies the epidemiology of violent and criminal behavior at the population level.



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SueW

Member
I have been thinking that may be Factor 1 is essentially assessing Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Factor 2, antisocial and criminal aspects. That would make a psychopath a criminal, antisocial narcissist. Not all people with NPD are criminal and not all criminals have NPD.
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
No. Factor 1 does not reflect personality - just involvement in criminal activities.

I'm not sure why you seem so intent on equating psychopathy with narcissism, Sue. They are not the same thing at all.
 

SueW

Member
Hi David and thanks for your comments. Below I have cited the characteristics for NPD from the DSM-IV and also cited the characteristics, including the two factors of psychopathy. The characteristics of NPD and Factor 1 seem, at least very similar. If I am wrong please enlighten me.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (DSM-IV)
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy.
1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. Believes he is "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration
5. Has a sense of entitlement
6. Selfishly takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends
7. Lacks empathy
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him
9. Shows arrogant, haughty, patronizing, or contemptuous behaviors or attitudes

Psychopathy factors (The Oxford Handbook of Psychiatry).
Factor 1
Aggressive narcissism
1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Factor 2
Socially deviant lifestyle
1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsiveness
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavioral problems
10. Revocation of conditional release
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
Apologies for the confusion. I've corrected my post above yours, where I was referring to Factor 2 but called it Factor 1.

Have you read Cleckely's The Mask of Sanity? His 16 traits are also listed here"

  1. Superficial charm and good intelligence
  2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
  3. Absence of nervousness or psychoneurotic manifestations
  4. Unreliability
  5. Untruthfulness and insincerity
  6. Lack of remorse and shame
  7. Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
  8. Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
  9. Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
  10. General poverty in major affective reactions
  11. Specific loss of insight
  12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
  13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
  14. Suicide threats rarely carried out
  15. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
  16. Failure to follow any life plan.
While there may be some overlap among certain personalities, whether this reflects comorbidity or just the nature of personality disorders and their origins is unclear. What is clear is that psychopathy is not the same as antisocial personality disorder, despite attempts to quantify psychopathy reliably in DSM-III and DSM-IV.

I don't think it is helpful to look at psychopathy and narcissism as the same thing, personally, and simply looking at comparisons of listed traits is going to reveal all that you need to know about a disorder. There are limitations to DSM-IV-TR which I'm not optimistic are going to be repaired in DSM5. Among other proposed changes in DSM5 is the dropping of Narcissistic Personality Disorder entirely.

If you have ever sat across from and interviewed a classic "primary psychopath", you know that you are interviewing a very different kind of animal. I've never come face to face with a shark but I've always imagined that looking into the eyes of a shark must be very similar to looking into the eyes of a psychopath. It is the absence of emotion and empathy that characterizes the core of the psychopath. While narcissists may also lack empathy, they are more like individuals with borderline personality disorder in the categorical "devil or angel" aspects of their emotional expression.

But in any case, the article posted in this thread is not about debating the characteristics of psychopathy or other personality disorders, but rather the question of the adequacy and validity of Hare's Psychopathy Checklist. Does Hare's Factor 1 adequately measure psychopathic traits? That's unclear, partly because it has low reliability. What is clear is that Factor 2 is not a valid measure of psychopathy, and it is the only one that is both reliable and has predictive validity, primarily because it is a measure of past criminal involvement and future criminal recidivism and one does not have to be a psychopath to be a recidivist criminal.
 

SueW

Member
Thanks David,

I do find the whole thing fascinating and yes there are differences between NPD and psychopathy. I haven't interviewed a psychopath but believe I have met one ( a friend's husband). At the time I did not know he was but I certainly was aware of a chill down my spine (literally) and a definite lack of emotion or empathy. I remember the day and it was a social situation; I will not to this day forget the look he gave me - it scared the c***p out of me. A few years later my friend divorced him and told me of the abuse he used to inflict on her (awful, unrepeatable things) - then it all made sense. I have also lived with a sig other who is narcissistic and yes I think I know where you are coming from. But how to quantify the difference?
 

SueW

Member
Thanks David,
Re the adequacy and validity of Hare's Psychopathy Checklist and Factor 1 having low reliability. Hmm. I do think classical analysis methods are questionable and there are, in my opinion, better ways to check reliability and validity. I am designing a measure myself for a PhD and am using Rasch analysis which, in my experience, has uncovered far more than CTT would have done. When you say factor 1 had low reliability, was this low inter-rater reliability? I assume that is the only way to use the PCL.
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
I mean low interrater reliability and low predictive validity. This is both in absolute terms and relative to Factor 2. When I last looked, you could find that information even in the PCL-R test manual.

Of course, Hare claims this can be improved with more or better training but one of my concerns is how frequently the PCL-R is used in Corrections and in the Courts in the hands of people who really have no training. I have had Crown Attorneys question why I don't use the PCL-R for risk assessment, as if to imply that if one doesn't use Hare's instrument the assessment has no validity. That's the scary power of the "advertising campaign" behind the PCL-R and its fans.

So basically any validity of the PCL-R adheres only to Factor 2, the criminal behavior factor. And that means very clearly that the PCL-R is not a valid measure of psychopathy at all but rather a measure of propensity for criminal recidivism. Given that it relies on a subjective rating scale, it's not even a very good measure of criminality or a very good predictor of criminal recidivism. The other failing of the PCL-R is that is is a categorical measure: The subject either is or is not a psychopath. But at what point is one a psychopath according to the PCL-R? Who knows? Hare has made some suggestions but doers anyone adhere to them in practice? Is there really a difference between the "non-psychopath" who scores 29 on the PCL-R and the "psychopath" who scores 30?

The research on use of the PCL-R is appalling. There is not even a standard agreed-upon cutoff. What is used to "classify" subjects as "psychopaths" or "non-psychopaths" depends on what will create the most equal sample sizes in any particular research study. But that is simply another reflection of the weaknesses of the scale and it's common usage.
 

SueW

Member
I wasn't totally aware that was the case - that a decision to put somebody into prison is based on a checklist with little reliability by people who may well be biased. That is scary.
 
Fascinating... I was debating this whole thing myself, just because my mom has NPD. I thought for a while there that she might be a psychopath... You know, how she came across as so fake all the time. But, she's too emotional and irrational, I think, to be a psychopath.

It will be interesting to hear what they come up with in the DSM5...
 
lol Man, I had to revisit this thread...

I am on a couple of support groups on FB regarding NPD... One is called "NPD Survivors" and one is "Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers"...

I feel completely at ease in "Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers" but the other one seems to be all over the place. The reason is, they seem to also think that if someone has NPD they are also Psychopathic. I tried to tell them the differences between someone who is a psychopath and someone who has narcissistic personality disorder, but they flat-out disagree with me. I left "NPD Survivors" because they aren't just about NPD, it seems. They seem to discuss just plain Narcissism (not the disorder) and how it negatively affects them and some of them even were saying they like to act out vindictively toward these people because they are conceited jerks. Others seem to have actually been talking about being raised by or being in a relationship with NPD, and others still describe experiences with full-blown psychopaths.

It's frustrating to me because I think it's self-destructive to try to be vindictive toward someone with NPD or definitely a psychopath. If everyone is talking about something else and thinking they are talking about the same thing, how helpful is that? lol When I explained that a NPD is formed, and a psychopath is born that way, I got told that people with NPD have psychopathic traits and even got quoted from the DSM. I tried to explain, yes that there is some overlap, blah blah blah but I might as well have been talking to a wall. Someone said people with NPD aren't sick, they are just different. lol Then someone else chimed in saying that I should just let people vent and talk about their experiences, and that I possibly misinterpreted what was being said, etc... Hence the leaving. I don't know if ANY of those people were actually doctors or psychologists or psychiatrists, but they all seemed to be highly-educated lay people like me. Mind you I suppose if I was doing searches on the internet to prove my parents were psychopaths, I would find things to support my theories, but I understand that you could get just as much supporting information if you researched the NPD, although has some overlapping traits of psychopathy, is different.

I guess some people feel strongly that their parents with NPD are also psychopaths, and I don't blame them. I have heard two (out of three) psychologists now who say that NPD does not equal Psychopathy. I have heard several people with anecdotal experience say they NPD=Pyschopathic.

Who would you tend to go with? Someone who has the education and experience giving therapy but never actually experienced being in a relationship with someone with NPD, or with throngs of people who have had actual experiences being abused by people with NPD? lol

Sheez, I hope this debate will be resolved once the new DSM is published.
 

SueW

Member
I am not sure the debate will be resolved. As I see it, there is a difference between people with NPD and psychopaths. NPD people do have emotions but their emotions are turned inwards; they can only feel sorry for themselves; feel upset for themselves; feel sad for themselves; they cannot feel sorry or upset or sad for others. Therefore people with NPD can be upset and can cry; they do have real emotions. Psychopaths, on the hand don't have true emotions. They don't feel sad or sorry for themselves as such in that they don't really feel true sadness or are truly upset (as in tearful). They can only feel anger, rage, possessiveness, jealosy, boredom, gratification, entitlement etc. I think you get the drift. Unfortunately though, it is probably difficult for the onlooker, sig other, to be able to know the difference. After a conversation on here with David Baxter, I do believe there is a difference. I believe I have a family member who is NPD and I have met a friend's partner who I believe to be a psychopath and the two are very different animals. One is annoying and difficult or impossible to live with and the other plain cold and chillingly scary.
 
Right... Well, try to convince an angry mob of that! lol

There's the small minority who really knows what's going on and wants to help the masses, but the masses are being pulled along by their emotions, and confused and angry and wanting to beat the crap out of the people who are trying to help them just because of an argument over a definition. Jinkies. I hate to see fighting when everyone is on the same side. 8P
 
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