Aliens?

[ghost]

Another point I would make is that, as humans, we have a need for mythology, and this is the point Joseph Campbell made during his lifetime. Just the title of one of his books, The Inner Reaches of Outer Space, kind of says it all. In a nutshell, the irrational belief in UFOs says more about being human and the need for "a myth to live by" than about weather balloons, etc.

If I learned anything over the years (the hard way I might add) it's that you can't find something when you have no idea what it is you are looking for. In all these years since I started looking at what was going on, not a heck of a lot has changed in people's approaches. They are still hung up on sightings as much today as they have ever been, because they don't know what else to look for.

---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------

Just an observation - You started this post with the following question:

Quote Originally Posted by ghost
Is it an ongoing delusion?

However, in your last several posts it sounds like you're no longer questioning whether or not its a delusion. You're arguing to prove that its not a delusion. This is a mental health forum, not a UFO forum. I'm not sure I understand your motivation for posting on this site.

Understand, I am only interested in the truth. Yes, I'll probably have a cave in if I have wasted over a half century on something that was never there. But I believe, despite everything I have been through, I have completed what I set out to do. I have weighed the picture and I have gone through things that definitely say "problem." I just don't think so. Let me give you an example.

I ask you - what would YOU do with this?

It's 4 AM Central on December 25, 2005.

You are sound asleep.

Suddenly, you are woken up by the following, echoing through your head.

"Hey bro, you dad died."

What would you do?

 

[David Baxter PhD]

I ask you - what would YOU do with this?

It's 4 AM Central on December 25, 2005.

You are sound asleep.

Suddenly, you are woken up by the following, echoing through your head.

"Hey bro, you dad died."

What would you do?

More to the point, what did you do?

 

[ghost]

More to the point, what did you do?

You're no fun ... :rofl:
I need to ask - can I post pics here, or at least a link to photobucket?

 

[David Baxter PhD]

You should be able to post images now, as long as they're not disturbing or offensive.

 

[ghost]

OK, thanks. No, I wouldn't post anything disturbing. Let me make sure everyone gets off to school; I'll be back.

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Ok, here we go

It needs to be said that I am fully aware of the possibilities here, but my position is proof, or as close as I can get to proof. In my mind, if we take the idea that what I heard was "coming from me" then the first question I would ask is: Is it possible that I am smarter than me? Now a closer look can show that the base idea here was somewhere in my memory, but, the second part of this I would never have guessed in a million years. If the total picture is looked at, this was humor; the driest humor I have ever seen - and considering the fact that I had to look this up and create an astronomical picture that ties directly into the main thought ... what am I supposed to think?


Ok, first off, a correction. The date was the 28th not the 25th.

The component parts in this are: the time it happened (4 AM Central), the date of Dec 28, the term father, and the idea said father had died.

Occam's razor (I do believe in this) would state "MY" natural father would be the first place to look. I looked - not "my" dad.

So now we venture out from the simplest approach to the next approach which would ask the question: Who else could be "my father" and the answer would be: God.

Short answer here would be: There is no way to directly connect God with dying .... unless .... we begin to consider archetypes.

History shows the archetype of the idea of "God" is the sun. As far back as Egypt's sun god Ra, he was the "all father of creation". The sun god idea continued on in history with an interesting culmination point, that of Sol Invictus, and a connection to the winter solstice.
In essence:
December 21st is and was the date of the winter solstice, which the Romans called bruma. For three days before the 21st and three days afterward the movement of the sun is imperceptible. The 25th December is the first day that the dawn of the sun can be perceived to have moved North from its most Southerly solstice position. Dies Natalis Solis Invicti was the celebration of the rebirth of the sun, for from then on daylight hours would grow longer and the nights shorter.
SOL INVICTUS.jpg - tribe.net

The idea of the dying / reborn sun tied to the winter solstice is still around today, and has been around for some time. The Unconquered Sun is an interesting idea if we take the picture where this Unconquerable Sun returns / is reborn on the 25th ... but - something happened? He wasn't "reborn"? Let's give him another 3 days and see what happens? Now comes the 28th of December - and STILL nothing? I guess it's over, he isn't coming. Hey bro, your dad died

Now at this point, to be fair, I will admit that there is a remote possibility that this scenario was constructed by my brain while I slept. HOWEVER - this next piece of the puzzle is a 100% IMPOSSIBILITY factor, ie, there is NO WAY I would have been able to add this picture. I did not begin to incorporate astronomical observances until 2007, after what I call a "light bulb moment" that happened while I was watching tv. These observances never incorporated anything but constellation references, and never had anything to do with the explanation below.

In this second part, when we incorporate the time of 4 AM Central (when the "voice" woke me up and I looked at the clock) the position of the key character in this explanation, the sun, was in the mid-day position over the exact area this myth began: Egypt. Add the fact that the mid-day position represented Ra's "strongest adult moment" in the daily representation of his life, what are we to say? I found a web-site where I was able to do the astronomical calculations of the sun's position when it was 4 AM Central time, using the closest area representation to where I was at the time, and the only difference is a north / south variation which does not upset the final picture at all. There is no way to explain this phenomena.

My final conclusions, based on all pertinent data, is that the event was from outside of my person.

 

[David Baxter PhD]

Coincidence (the raw materials for conspiracy theories):

• an event that might have been arranged although it was really accidental
  wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
• Coincidence is when something uncanny and coincidental happens. The word is derived from the Latin co- ("in", "with", "together") and incidere ("to fall on"). ...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coincidence
• Of events, the appearance of a meaningful connection when there is none
  en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coincidence

 

[ghost]

And when does coincidence end and data become accepted? The mathematical possibilities of occurrence regarding any one component part (when incorporated into a total picture) exceed the possibilities of coincidence. Like any "new" subject, reluctance to accept information is expected. Coincidence, in this one particular picture, cannot be the answer as there is a historical aspect to this. All pieces fit. The time of the creation of the sun god was the time history was rewritten, and the reason we are in the dark as to what happened. ET is behind the final picture that we should know, and don't. Why don't we know? As said, history was rewritten - WE screwed this up.

Regarding conspiracy theories, they are just data constructs. All that needs to be done is review the component parts, compare the parts to known information, and create a counter argument. I have one on 911. Maybe we should go into that too

 

[David Baxter PhD]

Maybe we should go into that too

No, I don't think so. If this is why you joined Psychlinks, you are in the wrong place. This is primarily a mental health support forum. You initially represented yourself as someone looking for information in that realm. It appears that's not the case.

 

[David Baxter PhD]

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