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This is not all that unusual in medicine. I've seen it in several specialties, and possibly in the field of psychiatry more than in others. There are GP's who become clinically and intellectually interested in mental illness and through their continuing medical education focus on psychiatry and psychology, and work in the milieu.
They will do various forms of therapy in private practice and work in the departments of psychiatry in hospitals.
They usually work in close liaison with their specialist colleagues and generally do good work.
Are you saying this physician was working in a hospital under false pretenses, with the staff of the hospital not knowing he was not a certified psychiatrist...or was the misunderstanding between you as a patient and this physician?
forgetmenot
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Hi Bren i do understand how the environment can affect ones mood hope the smog lifts some soon and the grey is not so dark
I too hope that you are seeing someone to help you with your depressive moods
I too hope that you are seeing someone to help you with your depressive moods
Thank you Steve, forgetmenot and Andy for posting.
The greying sky does effect me a lot esp in my face around my eyes and nose. For some reason, if my eyes, in particular, are irritated in any way my whole day becomes unbearable.
Am I seeing anyone? Well, I live in a small town, I don't drive, and I am on disability. With all that in mind, it is quite difficult to find appropriate help but, I do see a S.W. once a month...but he requested/referred me to the Public Health Unit in a nearby city, and we are just now getting appointments arranged. I also am on medication.
Not sure if we are allowed to state our diagnosis here but mine is Complex PTSD with Major Depressive Disorder.
I was in hospital a while back, and the attending doctor that I had I thought he was a psychiatrist. I found out that he is a G.P.. For some reason this issue has consumed me, since I left the hospital.
I have a major problem trusting people and systems [CAS, Government Ministries, doctors]....any doctor worth any grain of salt knows that trust is big time issue for PTSD clients.
And yet, he never thought it might be important to inform me of his limitations as a GP working on a Mental Health Unit.
I have reported him to the Ont. College of Physicians and Surgeons. He was advised to be more mindful of reminding the 'staff' of his status as a G.P..
Well, my immediate reaction to this conclusion is simply this: What about telling his patients? Dah????I did not find this conclusion of this investigation satisfactory so, I have taken it to another level for a review by a review panel outside of the medical establishment.
The GREY that I'm feeling emotionally is related to this obsession.
All the time I was in hospital I'm being told to be strong...stand up for your self in life....but now that I am trying to stand up for my self by making a complaint against a doctor who violated my trust I feel like I have been pushed away by the very people who told me to stand up for myself...when I talk to people that worked with me in the hospital, now, they defend that doctor and don't support me for standing up for myself.
The whole thing makes me angry....but if I stop per suing this then he has gotten away with violating patients by not being honest causing them to lose their trust in their physician...and maybe the whole system.
Why should he be allowed to do that? Just because we have psychiatric problems doesn't give him nor any one else the right to walk all over us and have us quiver in fear of him/them.
The greying sky does effect me a lot esp in my face around my eyes and nose. For some reason, if my eyes, in particular, are irritated in any way my whole day becomes unbearable.
Am I seeing anyone? Well, I live in a small town, I don't drive, and I am on disability. With all that in mind, it is quite difficult to find appropriate help but, I do see a S.W. once a month...but he requested/referred me to the Public Health Unit in a nearby city, and we are just now getting appointments arranged. I also am on medication.
Not sure if we are allowed to state our diagnosis here but mine is Complex PTSD with Major Depressive Disorder.
I was in hospital a while back, and the attending doctor that I had I thought he was a psychiatrist. I found out that he is a G.P.. For some reason this issue has consumed me, since I left the hospital.
I have a major problem trusting people and systems [CAS, Government Ministries, doctors]....any doctor worth any grain of salt knows that trust is big time issue for PTSD clients.
And yet, he never thought it might be important to inform me of his limitations as a GP working on a Mental Health Unit.
I have reported him to the Ont. College of Physicians and Surgeons. He was advised to be more mindful of reminding the 'staff' of his status as a G.P..
Well, my immediate reaction to this conclusion is simply this: What about telling his patients? Dah????I did not find this conclusion of this investigation satisfactory so, I have taken it to another level for a review by a review panel outside of the medical establishment.
The GREY that I'm feeling emotionally is related to this obsession.
All the time I was in hospital I'm being told to be strong...stand up for your self in life....but now that I am trying to stand up for my self by making a complaint against a doctor who violated my trust I feel like I have been pushed away by the very people who told me to stand up for myself...when I talk to people that worked with me in the hospital, now, they defend that doctor and don't support me for standing up for myself.
The whole thing makes me angry....but if I stop per suing this then he has gotten away with violating patients by not being honest causing them to lose their trust in their physician...and maybe the whole system.
Why should he be allowed to do that? Just because we have psychiatric problems doesn't give him nor any one else the right to walk all over us and have us quiver in fear of him/them.
the attending doctor that I had I thought he was a psychiatrist. I found out that he is a G.P.
This is not all that unusual in medicine. I've seen it in several specialties, and possibly in the field of psychiatry more than in others. There are GP's who become clinically and intellectually interested in mental illness and through their continuing medical education focus on psychiatry and psychology, and work in the milieu.
They will do various forms of therapy in private practice and work in the departments of psychiatry in hospitals.
They usually work in close liaison with their specialist colleagues and generally do good work.
He was advised to be more mindful of reminding the 'staff' of his status as a G.P.
Are you saying this physician was working in a hospital under false pretenses, with the staff of the hospital not knowing he was not a certified psychiatrist...or was the misunderstanding between you as a patient and this physician?
Steve, that is the whole point here is that maybe G.P.'s do do those things that you mentioned, but I believe that it is our right as patients to be informed that these doctor are not psychiatrists.
This is the problem in this situation is that it is not clear to me whether the staff do know or don't know his position. It seems to be quite mysterious.
This is the problem in this situation is that it is not clear to me whether the staff do know or don't know his position. It seems to be quite mysterious.
Bren,
I would venture to say that every member of the staff of a hospital department knows each other and have a clear understanding as to each person's expertise, responsibilities and standing.
Hospital departments are run in a methodical and well organized manner, with department heads well aware of every member of their staff and the duties of each staff member on the team to which they are assigned. Staff meets regularly for rounds where cases are discussed among colleagues in a collegial manner in order to draw on each other's expertise.
Modern hospitals in North America where I am most familiar operate on pretty much the same model, and staff members are selected by meeting stringent criteria of professional and ethical standards.
Unless there was some kind of ethical breach or professional or clinical incompetence, which, I suspect would have been addressed and investigated and subsequently dismissed except for the admonition the doctor was advised to make clear his professional credentials, since you said you made a complaint, One might conclude there was no major transgression, but rather a misunderstanding that likely did not affect your medical care.
Was your medical care compromised in any way?
I would venture to say that every member of the staff of a hospital department knows each other and have a clear understanding as to each person's expertise, responsibilities and standing.
Hospital departments are run in a methodical and well organized manner, with department heads well aware of every member of their staff and the duties of each staff member on the team to which they are assigned. Staff meets regularly for rounds where cases are discussed among colleagues in a collegial manner in order to draw on each other's expertise.
Modern hospitals in North America where I am most familiar operate on pretty much the same model, and staff members are selected by meeting stringent criteria of professional and ethical standards.
Unless there was some kind of ethical breach or professional or clinical incompetence, which, I suspect would have been addressed and investigated and subsequently dismissed except for the admonition the doctor was advised to make clear his professional credentials, since you said you made a complaint, One might conclude there was no major transgression, but rather a misunderstanding that likely did not affect your medical care.
Was your medical care compromised in any way?
Hi Bren.
I know it is frustrating for anybody to be at any hospital or unit. Often, people are not being informed at all on how the system and some areas function, on what the usual course is and what to expect. There is simply no one specifically assigned to coordinating this aspect of care. Thus, there is frustration, resentment and often targeting a single professional for their "troubles". Have you discussed your concerns with the general medicine doctor?
With patients, who present with acute psychiatric issues, the usual course is to complete a full medical investigation by general medicine (usually general medicine, unless they refer the patient to nephrology or gynecology for example for specialized medical investigations). Patient is required to be "medically cleared", which means, free of any suspicion of medical causes for psychiatric presentations, before they are sent to or admitted under psychiatry. Psychiatry doctors might not even agree to undertake certain cases, if there is medical complications or causes for disease that need treatment by gen. medicine.
I just wanted to help you by sharing what I know about how hospitals in Canada operate.
The Doctor was cautioned by the college to introduce himself properly. I would think this is a satisfactory answer. Do not you agree?
I know it is frustrating for anybody to be at any hospital or unit. Often, people are not being informed at all on how the system and some areas function, on what the usual course is and what to expect. There is simply no one specifically assigned to coordinating this aspect of care. Thus, there is frustration, resentment and often targeting a single professional for their "troubles". Have you discussed your concerns with the general medicine doctor?
With patients, who present with acute psychiatric issues, the usual course is to complete a full medical investigation by general medicine (usually general medicine, unless they refer the patient to nephrology or gynecology for example for specialized medical investigations). Patient is required to be "medically cleared", which means, free of any suspicion of medical causes for psychiatric presentations, before they are sent to or admitted under psychiatry. Psychiatry doctors might not even agree to undertake certain cases, if there is medical complications or causes for disease that need treatment by gen. medicine.
I just wanted to help you by sharing what I know about how hospitals in Canada operate.
The Doctor was cautioned by the college to introduce himself properly. I would think this is a satisfactory answer. Do not you agree?
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