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Internet diagnoses: Trust them or toss them?
by e-Patient Dave
December 5, 2008

This guest post is an article written by Lisa Neal Gualtieri, published in her local paper. It?s an example of widening distribution of principles and practices documented in the e-patient white paper. I?m grateful to Lisa for sharing these true stories of patients taking matters into their own hands, sometimes in collaboration with their care providers, sometimes despite them. We?ll discuss viewpoints in the comments. ~ e-Patient Dave

If you were a patient of Dr. Gregory House, you?d be afraid to tell him you?d researched your symptoms on the Internet. House, the lead character on the Fox TV show, would unceremoniously toss his stethoscope at you and proclaim that you are now a doctor as he nonchalantly walked out of his office.

But in the world beyond the television screen, many physicians have come to recognize the value of their patients? use of the Internet.

And, if you are like most people, you turn to the Internet for health. Eighty-four percent of adult Internet users in the U.S. go online for medical information, according to a 2007 Harris poll. Some of them, like Diana C., believe the Internet saved their life.

The morning after Diana woke up to find a bat in her bedroom, she noticed marks on her shoulder. When they reddened and became itchy, she searched online and identified the marks as bat bites by measuring the distance between the teeth on a life size picture of a bat and comparing that to the marks on her shoulder. She learned that a bat bite can eventually become fatal if not treated within 48 hours.

After rushing to the hospital, Diana saw that the nurse washed her wounds for just 30 seconds, not the five minutes recommended. A doctor told her not to worry about the 48-hour deadline based on his knowledge of rabies in dogs. Diana realized that she knew more about bat bites than some of the professionals treating her. Only through her own vigilant efforts did she receive the care she needed.

Similarly, Jason D. turned to the Internet when his son, who would cough all night, seemed fine at his medical appointments. Jason concluded his son had asthma and requested tests from his son?s doctor that confirmed the diagnosis.

And Saul C. is indebted to the online symptom checker that advised him to seek immediate medical attention when, several days into a cold, his leg began to swell and hurt. He did, despite his fear that the doctor would chastise him for being overweight. The doctor diagnosed and hospitalized Saul with cellulitis and told him that he was lucky he didn?t wait any longer to be treated, and also told him he needed to lose weight.

The Internet is no substitute for a good diagnostician, like Saul?s or Dr. House. Even as a screening tool, the Internet is limited since doctors notice symptoms that you might not, order tests, and expertly consider an abundance of possible diagnoses. However, as Diana saw, doctors may have little experience with particular diseases, and, as Jason learned, a patient?s symptoms may not manifest themselves in the doctor?s office.

The Internet offers immediacy, an advantage at night or on the weekend. It offers anonymity, which is helpful when a symptom seems too embarrassing to discuss with your doctor. It also offers more detailed information than your doctor might have time to provide.

But the Internet also has erroneous information that can lead you to believe that pounds can literally melt away and cures exist for incurable diseases. A recent YouTube video that has been viewed thousands of times depicts a treatment that claims to reverse the effects of the Alzheimer?s disease, for which no cure currently exists. If miracle cures existed, everyone would know about them, including your doctor.

That is one of the reasons you shouldn?t use the Internet in a vacuum. Another is that looking symptoms up online can be confusing ? and frightening ? when you lack medical expertise, since there are seemingly endless possibilities to consider.

A Pew Internet and American Life study found that 18 percent of online health seekers were confused by the information they found and 10 percent felt frightened by the serious or graphic nature of the information, making it more concerning that only a third of people looking online talked with a doctor or other health professional about the information they found.

?Given that patients are going online, the best thing to do is engage them as partners in care,? said Dr. Bruce Auerbach, president of the Massachusetts Medical Society and a Lexington resident.

He went on to recommend that, when you use the Internet, you ?use credible, reliable sites from trusted sources including medical specialty societies, state associations, and recognized organizations such as the American Heart Association and the American Diabetes Association.?

Above all, seek professional treatment immediately if a Web site recommends it or if you aren?t getting better. Talk to your doctor about what you find online, especially if you are confused or concerned. And don?t worry about a scolding ? la House.

Finally, if you receive a new diagnosis from your doctor, ask for Web sites where you can learn more about your condition. Chances are, you?ll come away with excellent recommendations.

Lisa Neal Gualtieri is an Adjunct Clinical Professor at Tufts University School of Medicine, where she teaches a course on Online Consumer Health, where e-Patient Dave delivered a guest lecture on Dec. 2. Lisa?s blog on health is at Lisa Neal Gualtieri
 

NicNak

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I am glad there is more useful medical information on the internet than years ago.

I remember checking up on my meds and all I would see was warnings of Tardive Dyskinesia and all these adverts suggesting other means of treating mental illness or miracle "cures"

An old friend of mine had very serious mental illness and her husband researched online baught into a lot of the other "therapys" that did not help her.

I find now, at least there are more research based articals online instead of just bias medical opinions.
 

Daniel E.

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Recently, I was able to learn through the miracle of the Internet that excessive gum chewing can create TMJ problems. I learned this, of course, after excessive gum chewing :)
 

Jazzey

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:) Or, you could have already had the TMJ - exacerbated by the gum chewing?

People often have it before they recognize its symptoms...The gum chewing helps to figure it out.
 

Daniel E.

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Oh dear.... :)

Fortunately, I don't have pain or other bothersome symptoms (though I had some minor discomfort for a few days after chewing too much gum), so I am not worried. But I will tell my dentist when I see him February, now that you mention it.
 

Jazzey

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Good plan - the "night bite plate" helps. Sorry - I don't know the technical term. But I have one! ;)
 

NicNak

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Me too! It is a mouth guard I think. Helps for grinding teeth? That is what mine is for :search:
 

Daniel E.

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Thanks for mentioning the night guard. Ironically, I bought one for my brother a few years ago but never thought I would need one :) I really don't know if I grind my teeth at night or not, so I will try it out and see if this happens to me:

The dentist told me that he has had patients who come back to him with their night guard looking like a dog has chewed on it.

Minti - Preventing Teeth Damage When Grinding Teeth During Sleep

:D
 

NicNak

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haa haa haa, or does the metal parts pick up radio stations?

Mine doesn't :( I must have the base model

Daniel. There are mouth guards I found to make that you buy in the drug store. When I was grinding my teeth bad, I baught the drug store one to use before I got the dentist made one
 

Daniel E.

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I am going to hold off on the MP3-enabled, iPod-ready night guards since I just realized I already have at least a thin night guard -- the custom whitening trays I paid hundreds of dollars for. (They don't show any obvious signs of teeth grinding so far, but it's been a while since I've used them.)

And, yeah, I know about the drug-store variety. I bought my brother's at Walmart :) He liked his a lot.
 

Jazzey

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:) -Don't worry too much about the teeth grinding. When you see your dentist in February- he can tell you just by looking at the top layer of your teeth. On the whole, really not a big deal. I've had it for years....Still have all of my teeth! ;)

(if I were more internet saavy - I'd attach a really good pic right 'bout now...gumless nanny type - although would probably defeat the purpose of trying to assuage any fears you may have...):)
 

NicNak

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I am going to hold off on the MP3-enabled, iPod-ready night guards since I just realized I already have at least a thin night guard --

I agree. I won't get one of those either. I have a hard enough time sleeping with the songs that just "naturally" run through my head at night. :crazy: (I get racing thoughts a lot when trying to sleep) Let alone add an MP3 player iPod or radio to the mix. :teehee:
 
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