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David Baxter PhD

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For Some Parents, Shouting Is the New Spanking
By HILARY STOUT, New York Times
October 22, 2009

JACKIE KLEIN is a devoted mother of two little boys in the suburbs of Portland, Ore. She spends hours ferrying them to soccer and Cub Scouts. She reads child-development books. She can emulate one of those pitch-perfect calm maternal tones to warn, ?You?re making bad choices? when, say, someone doesn?t want to brush his teeth.

That is 90 percent of the time. Then there is the other 10 percent, when, she admits, ?I have become totally frustrated and lost control of myself.?

It can happen during weeks and weeks and weeks of no camp in the summer, or at the end of a long day at home ? just as adult peace is within her grasp ? when the 7- or 9-year-old won?t go to sleep.

And then she yells.

?This is ridiculous! I?ve been doing things all day for you!?

Many in today?s pregnancy-flaunting, soccer-cheering, organic-snack-proffering generation of parents would never spank their children. We congratulate our toddlers for blowing their nose (?Good job!?), we friend our teenagers (literally and virtually), we spend hours teaching our elementary-school offspring how to understand their feelings. But, incongruously and with regularity, this is a generation that yells.

?I?ve worked with thousands of parents and I can tell you, without question, that screaming is the new spanking,? said Amy McCready, the founder of Positive Parenting Solutions, which teaches parenting skills in classes, individual coaching sessions and an online course. ?This is so the issue right now. As parents understand that it?s not socially acceptable to spank children, they are at a loss for what they can do. They resort to reminding, nagging, timeout, counting 1-2-3 and quickly realize that those strategies don?t work to change behavior. In the absence of tools that really work, they feel frustrated and angry and raise their voice. They feel guilty afterward, and the whole cycle begins again.?

Amy Wilson, a writer and actress in Manhattan, used to give up shopping for Lent. That was before she had children, now ages 6, 5 and 2. This year she gave up yelling. Or tried to. ?It didn?t really work,? she said, ?but I definitely yelled less.?

Ms. Wilson has written a humorous autobiographical book about parenting, to be published next year, called When Did I Get Like This? An entire chapter is devoted to her personal efforts to curtail her yelling.

A ONE-WOMAN show, Mother Load, which she wrote and performed Off Broadway and will take on tour for the second time next year, opens with a yelling scene that draws laughs and includes the line ?I have had it with looking for puppy? in a high-decibel lament that rings true to anyone who has searched for a favorite stuffed animal for the seventh time in a day.

Familial screamers have long been a beloved part of American pop culture, from the Costanzas of Seinfeld back to the Goldbergs of radio and early television, but they didn?t yell at small children. And though previous generations of parents may have yelled in real life ? Dr. Spock called shouting ?inevitable from time to time? ? this generation of parents seems to be uniquely troubled by their own outbursts.

?My name is Francesca Castagnoli and I am a screamer,? began a post on Motherblogger.net earlier this year. ?Admitting I?m a mom that screams, shouts and loses it in front her kids feels like I?m revealing a dark family secret.?

?It?s not kind,? said Ms. Klein in Oregon. ?When I?m done I feel awful.?

To research their book Mommy Guilt: Learn to Worry Less, Focus on What Matters Most, and Raise Happier Kids, the three authors, Devra Renner, Aviva Pflock and Julie Bort, commissioned a survey of 1,300 parents across the country to determine sources of parental guilt. Two-thirds of respondents named yelling ? not working or spanking or missing a school event ? as their biggest guilt inducer.

?What blew us away about that is that the one thing you really have ultimate control over is the tone of your voice,? said Ms. Pflock, a child development specialist.

Parental yelling today may be partly a releasing of stress for multitasking, overachieving adults, parenting experts say.

?Yelling is done when parents feel irritable and anxious,? said Harold S. Koplewicz, the founder of the New York University Child Study Center. ?It can be as simple as ?I?m overwhelmed, I?m running late for work, I had a fight with my wife, I have a project due ? and my son left his homework upstairs.? ?

Numerous studies exist on the effect of corporal punishment on children. A new one came out just last month. Led by a researcher at Duke University?s Center for Child and Family Policy, the study concluded that spanking children when they are very young (1-year-old) can slow their intellectual development and lead to aggressive behavior as they grow older. But there is far less data on the more common habit of shouting and screaming in families.

One study that did take a look at the topic ? a paper on the ?psychological aggression by American parents? published in the Journal of Marriage and Family in 2003 ? found that parental yelling was a near-universal occurrence. Of 991 families interviewed, in 88 percent of them a parent acknowledged shouting, screaming or yelling at the kids at least once (though it didn?t specify how many did it more often) in the previous year.

?We are so accustomed to this that we just think parents get carried away and that it?s not harmful,? said one of the study?s lead authors, Murray A. Straus, a sociologist who is a director of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire. ?But it affects a child. If someone yelled at you at work, you?d find that pretty jarring. We don?t apply that standard to children.?

Psychologists and psychiatrists generally say yelling should be avoided. It?s at best ineffective (the more you do it the more the child tunes it out) and at worse damaging to a child?s sense of well-being and self-esteem.

?It isn?t the yelling per se that?s going to make a difference, it?s how the yelling is interpreted,? said Ronald P. Rohner, director of the Ronald and Nancy Rohner Center for the Study of Interpersonal Acceptance and Rejection at the University of Connecticut. If a parent is simply loud, he says, the effect is minimal. But if the tone connotes anger, insult or sarcasm, it can be perceived as a sign of rejection.

Professor Rohner noted that while spanking is considered taboo by the major medical and psychological associations, there are still some religious and conservative groups who support it as an effective disciplinary tool, believing that the Bible explicitly allows it.

But, he said, ?There is no group of Americans that advocate yelling as a parenting style. My bottom-line recommendation is don?t yell. It is a risk factor for a family.?

Easier said than done. Strategies to stop yelling abound. Ms. Klein said she has a friend who gives herself a timeout by going into another room when she feels a scream coming on.

Experts suggest figuring out ways to prevent situations that make you most prone to yell. If forgotten homework sends you into the stratosphere, make sure the children have their books and notebooks packed and waiting by the door before they go to bed. If you?re stressed and hungry after a long day at the office, make sure you grab something to eat in the kitchen before you tackle, say, a brewing disagreement over Legos.

Still, there are those moments.

?I?d like to think that most of the time we have a good interaction based on reason,? Lena Merrill said of her 4-year-old daughter, whom she has never spanked. But then there are the times when ?she?s done something like poured milk on the floor or ripped a page out of a book,? Ms. Merrill said. ?I just lose it.?

Usually, she says, she shouts something like, ?Why did you do that? Why would you do that??

?It?s phrased like a question to make her think, but the tone scares her,? Ms. Merrill said.

Still, Ms. Merrill, a travel consultant in Rutherford, N.J., finds that the threat of yelling can be a convenient stick, much the way the threat of a spanking was in her childhood. Even her husband has taken to using it to encourage good behavior, she said, issuing the warning:

?Don?t make mommy mad.?
 

Andy

MVP
Some of them probably deserved it, though... the adults I mean...
*Oh my, I was only speaking adults (otherwise that last comment I wrote would be quite inappropriate and disgusting).

Deserved it and asked for it...lol this is just going in the wrong direction.:blush:
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
*Oh my, I was only speaking adults (otherwise that last comment I wrote would be quite inappropriate and disgusting).

Deserved it and asked for it...lol this is just going in the wrong direction.:blush:

No, my fault, What I meant to type was something like "assuming they're adults", which I did assume.

I must have been waiting for coffee or distracted when I typed that... :)
 

Andy

MVP
I am so out of it. I just looked at the title of this and thought it said "Is shooting the new spanking?"
"Johnny get to bed before I pop a cap in your *ss!":shock4:
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
I just looked at the title of this and thought it said "Is shooting the new spanking?"

I dare say the thought has crossed the minds of most parents at one time or another. That would explain the popularity of the parental unit threat, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it"... :panic:
 

Andy

MVP
lol Geez sometimes it's like they know what your going to write and put the matching banner.

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:wink:
 

Banned

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I dare say the thought has crossed the minds of most parents at one time or another. That would explain the popularity of the parental unit threat, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it"... :panic:

My mom couldn't use that line on me. Adoption has its privileges.

I used to say to her "You're not my real mom. You can't tell me what to do." :eek: That always got me a spanking or two.
 
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