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In Schizophrenics, Target Marijuana Use: Study
By Genevra Pittman

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Jun 02 - Smoking pot may be linked to worsening schizophrenia, according to a new study.

Researchers say the results also suggest that among patients at risk for schizophrenia, those who use marijuana may develop it earlier in life than those who don't.

The findings don't prove that smoking marijuana causes schizophrenia, and the study only looked at people who already had the disease. But "smoking marijuana may have hastened whatever process was going to happen anyway," Daniel Foti, a PhD student at Stony Brook University on New York's Long Island and the lead author on the study, told Reuters Health.

Previous research has shown that people who smoke marijuana may be more likely to develop schizophrenia than people who don't use drugs. This study suggests that doctors treating schizophrenia should make marijuana use one focus of their treatment, the authors write.
The researchers followed 229 patients with a schizophrenia spectrum disorder for ten years after their first psychiatric hospitalization. They compared the patients' use of marijuana - both recently and over their lifetimes - with how old they were when their symptoms started and how severe those symptoms currently were. The study was published online May 17 in the American Journal of Psychiatry.

Close to two-thirds of the patients had smoked marijuana at some time in their lives. The rates of current use ranged from 10% to 18% across assessments.

Patients who had used marijuana before being hospitalized for schizophrenia had worse symptoms of psychosis than patients who hadn't at the time they were admitted. They were also admitted at a younger age.

"Changes in cannabis use were associated with changes in psychotic symptoms over time even after gender, age, socioeconomic status, other drug use, antipsychotic medication use, and other symptoms were controlled for," the authors report.

The link worked in both directions: patients whose symptoms had recently gotten worse reported smoking more marijuana the next time they were interviewed, and patients who started smoking more then began having worse symptoms.

Patients whose symptoms had recently gotten better generally reported smoking less marijuana at their next interview.

"There is a large and accumulating body of evidence that cannabis use and abuse can trigger the onset of psychosis," Dr. Dolores Malaspina, a psychiatrist at New York University who was not involved in the research, told Reuters Health by e-mail. This may be particularly true in teenagers, whose brains are still maturing, she said.

"This study and other research shows that cannabis abuse in the early illness can also have a lasting effect on the course of the psychiatric disorder, even when people become drug-free."

It's hard to know what might cause the link between marijuana use and schizophrenia symptoms, Dr. Stephen Eggan, a neuroscientist at the University of Pittsburgh, told Reuters Health. "At this point it's too early to say exactly what's happening," he said.

Still, Foti and his colleagues report that the link could nonetheless help certain people with schizophrenia - that by encouraging them to stop smoking marijuana, doctors might be able to help patients improve their symptoms.

The patients with the most severe symptoms, Foti said, "may be the ones that might highly benefit from intervention with drug use specifically." If the aim is limiting psychotic symptoms, he said, "it seems that reducing or stopping marijuana use may be one avenue towards that."

Source:
Cannabis Use and the Course of Schizophrenia: 10-Year Follow-Up After First Hospitalization -- Foti et al., 10.1176/appi.ajp.2010.09020189 -- Am J Psychiatry
 
My first psychotic break was due to use of canabis/hash. It created a mental process that persisted after I stoped smoking. That process weakened in strengt but never disapeared. Later this process was the cause of my current schizophrenia. Meanwhile I learned how to deal with that process and now I'm geting better.
 

Andy

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I'm glad you learned how to deal Modus.Ponens. What kinds of things are you doing to help yourself deal? Do you have all the supports in place for the future?
 

busybee

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Gee the doctors have been talking about this for some time. How long do they need to study it. I have personal experience regarding the side effects of pot as one of my children had a psychotic episode 11 years ago and it was related to his smoking pot from when he was 14. Long term use. then using hydroponic pot.... the people who grow it dont have scientifically controlled drugs here.... the doctors told me that sometimes just for fun they will lace the hydroponic liquid with poisons so the chemical reaction over time that this has on the brain is ............ obviously damaging.
I cant believe they are still doing studies on to what to me is the obvious. Surely the money would be better spent out in the field ......... what is this information going to do in the real world. Sorry had to vent this is very close to my heart.
 
I had a kind of intrusive thoughts. I'll not describe it in detail as someone might "catch" the same mental process. I used to respond to them with strong aversion and the process became automatic. This strong aversion triggers when I do tasks that involve extra concentration, like studying. One day I realized that all I had to do was to let the thoughts come to my mind at will. They would (and still sometimes) come and then just go away.

Now that I don't suffer with these thoughts, they don't get worse and all I have to do is taking medication and get better. I'm getting better slowly and I'm curious to see if I'll ever be able to be "normal" again. I know however that I'll be taking medication for the rest of my life.
 

Andy

MVP
Now that I don't suffer with these thoughts, they don't get worse and all I have to do is taking medication and get better. I'm getting better slowly and I'm curious to see if I'll ever be able to be "normal" again. I know however that I'll be taking medication for the rest of my life.

That's great and I am sure that if you stay on your medication you will be able to live a "normal" life. :2thumbs:
What's normal. Normal is a setting on a washing machine (or dryer).
 
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