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David Baxter PhD

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Medically unexplained pain associated with depression
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Thursday, 16 July 2009

High frequency of somatoform pain disorder reported with significant differences between patients with and without depression

Pain symptoms that cannot be attributed, or at least not fully attributed, to an organic origin are more frequently and more severely experienced by patients with depression than by those without.

"It is the case that women are much more frequently affected by depression and also by so-called somatoform pain disorder than men," explains Dirk Frieser, psychologist at the Institute of Psychology at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz.

For his doctoral dissertation Frieser and fellow psychologist Stephanie K?rber questioned 308 patients attending two practices of general practitioners in Mainz. Patients were asked about their state of health and their pain symptoms, but also about their anxieties with regard to illness, how they react when ill, what social support they receive, and what psychological stress they experience, together with many other aspects. Subsequently, the pain symptoms reported by the patients were evaluated by their doctors.

Somatoform symptoms, i.e., symptoms that cannot or not fully be explained in medical terms, are an astonishingly widespread phenomenon. According to Frieser "up to 80 percent of the symptoms reported in family physicians practices are somatoform. However, this does not mean that patients are simply 'imagining' that they have these symptoms." Somatoform symptoms are very real; they impair quality of life, and can also cause clinically relevant disorders that may require psychological treatment, such as cognitive behavior therapy.

Somatoform disorders, which are often popularly dismissed as 'hypochondria,' frequently not only involve pain symptoms but also other symptoms such as dizziness, sensations of hypersensitivity in various regions of the body, and even fatigue or exhaustion. What is important, according to Frieser, is that not everyone who has somatoform symptoms is diagnosed as having a somatoform disorder. The extent to which a patient's quality of life is impaired and the severity of the psychological problems they experience are the determining factors here.

Taking as their starting point the survey of primary physician practices in Mainz under the supervision of Professor Wolfgang Hiller of Mainz University, Frieser and K?rber decided to investigate what influence depression has on the pain experience of patients and to determine whether this differs if the pain is of clinical origin and if the pain has no medically identifiable cause.

"The results indicate that there is a significantly higher occurrence of somatoform pain in various body regions in patients with existing depression or who suffered depression in the previous 12 months than in patients without depression," says Frieser.

Therefore, according to the researchers, it is possible that patients who consult their doctors with multiple pain symptoms which cannot be explained in clinical terms are very probably suffering from a depressive disorder requiring treatment. In cases of major depression, the affected patients often exhibit dejection, despair, swings in appetite and body weight, insomnia or an increased need for sleep, tiredness, lack of energy, and psychomotor disturbances. These patients not infrequently also consider committing suicide. Short term mood swings with a duration of less than two weeks are not considered characteristic elements of this disorder.

The results of the Mainz survey underline the importance of the correct classification and evaluation of pain symptoms for healthcare services; the general practitioners concluded that pain was somatoform in 73 percent of cases, and could be fully explained in medical terms in only 27 percent of cases. Where the pain is attributable to an organic cause, it is irrelevant whether the patient has depression or not: The frequency, duration, and the debilitating effect of the pain are roughly equivalent in both patient groups.
 

NicNak

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I remember I had pains shooting down my side, by my ribs. It almost brought me to my knees. I didn't go into work and I asked mom to take me to the hospital. She suggested I wait to see if maybe it was "just gas".

I made an appointment with my GP, luckily got one the same day on the Monday I called. She ordered blood work, x-rays and an ultra sound.

In agony for an entire week, I was waiting for the results of the tests. The doctors office called for me to come back in to hear the results. There was nothing found.

Luckily my GP is good to me. She never dismissed me even after the negative results. She had mentioned the depression causing pain. She did another physical check of the area and showed me some easy stretching excercises to hopefully work out the pain and sometimes a heating pad helps too.

She said she could see the pain in my eyes and didn't doubt the pain I was in at all. (thankfully) She also assured me (cause I felt like an idiot) that there is no doubt the pain is real.

I had a kidney stone before and this pain reminded me of that. It was real bad.
 

Jazzey

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psychosomatic

I think, in the past 10 years at least, I've truly learned to really despise that word. I get it. I just it's just another way of invalidating my own personal pain...Which to me, is always quite real.
 

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I think, in the past 10 years at least, I've truly learned to really despise that word. I get it. I just it's just another way of invalidating my own personal pain...Which to me, is always quite real.

I agree. I have alot of physical pain in the abdomen that cannot be attributed to anything. Despite numerous tests, ultrasounds, blood work, etc...there is no logical explanation. I know for me it is crippling at times, and what worries me is one day I'll have something "real" going on (kidney stone, appendicitis, etc) but won't get help, because I've become used to the pain and it's come back as "nothing wrong" so many times.
 

NicNak

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I think though it is important to still have it checked out. There could be that occasion where we think it is depression related pain, when infact something inside our bellies etc is wrong.

My GP always tells me, if any pains like that come to go to emergency or come see her asap. No matter what, she never just assumes it is depression related. Incase there is an incident where it is really something that requires other treatments.
 
I hate it when doctors assume just because nothing is found on xray or test that it is all in your mind. No i have pain crippling pain, pain that sends me to emergency a place i would never go in a million years then it is not in my head. Until all test have ruled other wise and i mean all test then one should not be dismissed as being psychological. So easy they use this when they can't explain what is going on that is how people die or end up with terminal illness that is not caught until too late. I really suggest that if one feels there is something definetly physically wrong then get a second opinion before accepting any such diagnosis demand to see a specialist if need be. You know your body and know when it is telling you something is just not right.
 

David Baxter PhD

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To be fair to doctors, especially ER doctors, (1) many people do worry to the point of almost panic about odd symptoms that are not in fact serious even if a cause can be found, and (2) if they can't find it, they can't treat it.
 
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