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MoGlow

Member
I think I am a malignant narcissist like Sam Vaknin. I do think I need help for my anger and jealousy issues as well as my vindictiveness and lack of empathy.

Here is my story. What do you think?

I moderate a forum for abused people, along with a few other people. One moderator has Aspergers. She seems to be devoid of empathy, too and definitely lacks social skills. The other moderator/owner frequently solicits compliments about his photography as well as frequently self promotes himself to sell his books, just like Vaknin. None of us have any higher education or psych degrees, yet we run a website that attracts abused people. I think I and the other moderators may be malignant narcissists or maybe at least I and they are behaving like malignant narcissists. I do not know why I was attracted to people like the other moderators, but I always am. We are all cyberbullies on our forum, and enjoy railroading and controlling other members who diss us in our minds. Can you even imagine the ruthlessness and irresponsibility of appointing a person with Aspergers syndrome to moderate a forum for people who have been abused? Is that irresponsible? All of the moderators seem to become particularly angry if someone points out that we have no psych degrees, yet we appear to be diagnosing people and encouraging members to diagnose others, like parents and spouses. I personally become really angry if someone posts a link to a legitimate educational site that shows that my opinion is controversial and does not meld with current psychological literature. Or, if someone points out, no matter how gingerly, that it is wrong for people without psychology degrees to run a website for abused people. I fool myself by arguing that the site is meant to help people.

On the forum, filled with abused emotionally fragile people, I use multiple names to moderate under so that people think there is more than a handful of moderators. All the moderators also post under various member names on the forum I moderate. I use the information I gather about members from their forum posts to hurt and humiliate members who trigger my anger or make me feel inadequate. Usually, if I think they are too smart or too wealthy or too pretty, or too educated, this will trigger my rage. After that, I try to destroy them by embarrassing or humiliating them. It does not matter if they are right or wrong, I will provoke them behind the scenes to try to make them look crazy. I then have my many moderator personas and member personas, as well as encourage the other moderators to post messages that provoke them and then we all inform them that many board members have claimed that they have violated forum rules. ( this is usually not true) I will also change forum rules so that somehow no matter what they do they have managed to break a new rule that I recently changed. Most people do not remember the original rules, so that is easy to do. The fun part is the target of my rage usually will futilely try to defend themselves, but they will not know that the game is stacked in my favor. I will use my power as a moderator to ban them when they try to defend themselves after being provoked continually by me and my other moderator/member personas.

I will NOT make it known to the other more compliant/worshipful members that the targeted person has been banned so that the rest of the members will not be able to see through my games. I will just send the banned person a private note and prevent them from logging in because I know that most other members will not think that the target of my rage deserved to be banned, based on their posts. On the forum, the banned person shows up as signed in, and their account active, but they can not sign in. I do this in hopes that it will frustrate the banned person and hurt them. I get great pleasure out of playing with peoples' heads this way. The forum I moderate is for abused people so I have a wealth of fragile people to play with. I feel no remorse about behaving so unfairly when I am jealous of someone, and whenever someone triggers me, I seek to methodically set them up. I am jealous of people who are better than me through no fault of their own. In real life I have a new lack luster job that pays peanuts and that I hate. My private life is also in shambles, I am a divorced mother. I do not get along with my own mother, and no one respects me the way they should, not even my children. But on the forum i moderate, I am God.

Am I a malignant narcissist or just have anger issues?
 

CarlaMarie

Member
Re: Am I a malignant narcissist or do I just have anger issues.

Oh, my gosh that is mean. I hope what you are saying is you are sick and tired of yourself and you know better. From there progress can be made.
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
I think the very first thing you should do is shut down that forum. I cannot imagine all the damage you and your moderators have done over time. And then you should seek face-to-face psychotherapy with someone qualifierd to provide you with tools for anger management and perhaps with a diagnosis and assistance regarding other issues.
 

MoGlow

Member
Re: Am I a malignant narcissist or do I just have anger issues.

Ouch! Okay. I know it's mean. I know that. I am only mean to people who challenge my authority and knowledge as moderator of the website. I only get angry if someone posts a link to research or studies or prevailing psychological theory that proves my own claims as untrue. At that point, I accuse them of diagnosing people, simply because they posted a link to an authentic EDU site that discusses possible diagnoses. I have diagnosed my mother with a personality disorder based on her behavior and my own knowledge of personality disorders. I am only mean on MY FORUM. Maybe because that is the only place I have any power in life. Like I said, I basically have a loser job, and little eduction. Maybe that's because my mother has a personality disorder. Maybe it's because I do??????????????

I am just trying to get an expert opinion on whether or not I am a malignant narcissist. The thing that scares me about that is that Sam Vaknin, a self professed narcissist and psychopath (see the movie "I psychopath") claims that all narcissists are psychopaths. I am wondering if Vaknin is right.

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Mr. Baxter:

I can not shut it down. I am not the owner. I was solicited to moderate by the owner. I think you are right, though.

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I think the very first thing you should do is shut down that forum. I cannot imagine all the damage you and your moderators have done over time. And then you should seek face-to-face psychotherapy with someone qualifierd to provide you with tools for anger management and perhaps with a diagnosis and assistance regarding other issues.

Do you think it's just anger management rather than NPD?

As mentioned I can not shut down the site, the owner/photographer/author is the only one who can do that. I do think I need therapy. I am working on that. Money is tight, now.
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
You won't get a diagnosis here because we don't do that. It's unethical and inaccurate for anyone to diagnose anyone else online. It's also illegal: Diagnosis is a reserved act under legislation governing psychologists and physicians.

Sam Vaknin is a legend in his own mind. In my opinion, it's advisable to ignore whatever he says.

If you can't shut down that forum, you can at least withdraw from active participation. It's not healthy for you to be there in any capacity and at least it would be one less person bullying the fragile and defenseless.
 

MoGlow

Member
You won't get a diagnosis here because we don't do that. It's unethical and inaccurate for anyone to diagnose anyone else online. It's also illegal: Diagnosis is a reserved act under legislation governing psychologists and physicians.

Sam Vaknin is a legend in his own mind. In my opinion, it's advisable to ignore whatever he says.

If you can't shut down that forum, you can at least withdraw from active participation. It's not healthy for you to be there in any capacity and at least it would be one less person bullying the fragile and defenseless.

I am starting to realize that. He did originally write for some reputable websites, and I think that confuses people. I think they posted his writing before they learned that he got his diploma from a diploma mill.
 

rdw

MVP, Forum Supporter
MVP
Seek help. Anyone who attacks others for having a different point of view, diagnoses people without the education and background to do so and preys on those who are weak needs professional help to find a solution for their problems. Since money is a problem, time that you should not be spending on the forum should be spent looking for free mental health services in your area.
 

Yuray

Member
The fun part is the target of my rage usually will futilely try to defend themselves, but they will not know that the game is stacked in my favor. I will use my power as a moderator to ban them when they try to defend themselves after being provoked continually by me and my other moderator/member personas.

You might want to add passive aggressive to your suspetced disorders.
Do you want to change?
Why do you want to emulate, and subscribe to Vaknin?
Are you a malignant narcissist with rage issues.....what do you think?
 

Retired

Member
I have to ask myself why are you telling us all this about an online venue in which you participate that seems to enjoy demeaning and disrespecting vulnerable people.

Are you looking for support in order to deal with and find a way to correct your aberrant behaviour?

I am only mean to people who challenge my authority and knowledge as moderator of the website

Why don't you communicate in a civil and respectful manner rather than being aggressive and possibly insulting? Do you feel your authority is being challenged by forum members and that your knowledge is beyond reproach?

The forum I moderate is for abused people so I have a wealth of fragile people to play with. I feel no remorse about behaving so unfairly

How old were you when you were first abused, and are you abusing your family now?
 

Yuray

Member
You posted this in a thread called 'Hm..I really hate people'
I think when someone feels picked on they lash out by finding someone else to pick on. Sorta' like the dad who kicks the dog or his kids cause his boss yelled at him at work.

It's not healthy to feel this way.

Does this sum up your behaviour towards innocent vulnerable people?
 

MoGlow

Member
Yuray:

I have looked for free help in the U.S. I earn enough money to not be eligible for free services. Still I can not afford the fees most professionals charge. I am working on it.

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I know you are right about being passive aggressive.

Are you a malignant narcissist with rage issues.....what do you think?

I do not know. I do have empathy for people who are down and out. I only become angry with people who appear to be wealthier or more intelligent than I am. That seems to be a trigger. I know it is wrong to get angry at someone on the forum who posts an informative link to a legitimate EDU site to support their opinion, but for some reason it makes me feel dissed.

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Seek help. Anyone who attacks others for having a different point of view, diagnoses people without the education and background to do so and preys on those who are weak needs professional help to find a solution for their problems. Since money is a problem, time that you should not be spending on the forum should be spent looking for free mental health services in your area.

RDW:

I agree that is why I am here. The site owner at the Personality disorder site I moderate at encourages me to ban people who disagree with his opinions or other mods opinions, or who seem to want to find ways to stay connected to a personality disordered parent. Like Sam Vaknin's site, anyone who claims they have empathy for the personality disordered parent because they realize the parent may have a mental illness caused by neurological damage and who provides a link to prove their claim is eventually banned, and it is encouraged by the site owner to do so. They will put up with a bit of empathy for the PD parent or person, but if anyone comes right out and says that rejecting the PD is abusing the mentally ill, is then banned. They are not allowed to have this opinion or to even discuss it.

I am trying to leave, but they are my friends.

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Why don't you communicate in a civil and respectful manner rather than being aggressive and possibly insulting? Do you feel your authority is being challenged by forum members and that your knowledge is beyond reproach?

Steve:

I do not feel that my knowledge is beyond reproach. I know I am not that intelligent. I just feel angry when someone is more intelligent than I am and when they seem to have the ability to back up their claims with links to scientific research. I am not sure why. I do have empathy though for down and out people and pets.

How old were you when you were first abused, and are you abusing your family now?

She is my mother. She has always been a drama queen and a perfectionist and a guilt tripper. I did not realize I was being abused by her until I found Sam Vaknin's site, and the site I now moderate on.
 

rdw

MVP, Forum Supporter
MVP
I agree that is why I am here. The site owner at the Personality disorder site I moderate at encourages me to ban people who disagree with his opinions or other mods opinions, or who seem to want to find ways to stay connected to a personality disordered parent. Like Sam Vaknin's site, anyone who claims they have empathy for the personality disordered parent because they realize the parent may have a mental illness caused by neurological damage and who provides a link to prove their claim is eventually banned, and it is encouraged by the site owner to do so. They will put up with a bit of empathy for the PD parent or person, but if anyone comes right out and says that rejecting the PD is abusing the mentally ill, is then banned. They are not allowed to have this opinion or to even discuss it.

So we - people with mental illness - fight so hard to acknowledge our illness because we are afraid of being stigmatized and then people looking for "help" or "advice" on this website are encouraged or given incorrect information to shun the person with mental illness. Wow - I cannot imagine the damage done to people, their lives and their relationships from this website. That makes me so sad...

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If you cannot afford help, there are a number of resources in the form of self help books and articles posted on this website. These resources have allowed me to read to understand and educate myself which has helped me to heal and grow. Steve, Daniel and Dr Baxter are great at posting these names or links to these articles etc. So my thanks to them and my thanks for always giving postive, honest advice (sorry to hijack the thread this way)
 
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Yuray

Member
MoGlow said:
I only get angry if someone posts a link to research or studies or prevailing psychological theory that proves my own claims as untrue.
If you feel inadaquate about your knowledge, and want to appear more adaquate, (such as the people who post links to research etc.), post you own links.

Use google. eg.
why do I bully people - Google Search
Discovery Health "Health Guides"

keyword a search in google, go to the best choice, copy the address bar, and paste it in the quick reply box in here.

To do this, place the cursor in the quick reply box and activate it. Then, in the toolbar above the quick reply box, click this icon createlink-1.png

A box will appear where you can paste your copied link. (make sure there is only one http in your address).

I am sure you will feel satisfied with yourself for helping someone, moreso than satisfying your requirements to nourish your anger.
Social Approval and Inferiority Complex and Power

Please have a look at these links. I am not an academically intelligent person, but just like you, smarter than the average bear.

After posting 'healthy' links, your claims will be more difficult to prove untrue and you have respect from those you are, or should be, helping.

And finally, this next link is for everyone:)
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain.html
 

MoGlow

Member
Thank you for the links. I will check them out.:reading:

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So we - people with mental illness - fight so hard to acknowledge our illness because we are afraid of being stigmatized and then people looking for "help" or "advice" on this website are encouraged or given incorrect information to shun the person with mental illness. Wow - I cannot imagine the damage done to people, their lives and their relationships from this website. That makes me so sad...

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If you cannot afford help, there are a number of resources in the form of self help books and articles posted on this website. These resources have allowed me to read to understand and educate myself which has helped me to heal and grow. Steve, Daniel and Dr Baxter are great at posting these names or links to these articles etc. So my thanks to them and my thanks for always giving postive, honest advice (sorry to hijack the thread this way)

Thank you RDW:

You did not hijack the thread, you offered advice on how to heal. I am looking for advice.
 
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