forgetmenot
MVP
How many times does one have to hit a brick wall before realizing the dam wall will win everytime
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Hang in there...
David Baxter PhD
Late Founder
Generally about 3 to 6 times, but if you knock yourself out that doesn't count because you won't remember those ones.
Sounds like you have bad aim. Gotta stop trying to hit the brick walls and try to navigate around them or look for a door or climb over them with a ladder or something. Just because a bull's eye is painted on the wall, doesn't mean you have to aim your head at it.... 8P
forgetmenot
MVP
Sorry ya in a way it is good some of the times i have hit it so hard i just blank it all out
So the wall will stay and somehow i will have to find another path one not so painful perhaps
I was asked to try again after this past week i had yet again given up
i stopped trying i stopped everything in hope somehow i would find a different way perhaps out of this pain
I can't or do i say i won't put me in a position of judgment ever again i won't
i need somehowto stop hitting this brick wall I need to find a way out of all this but i guess giving up is not the way not yet.
It just gets to the point of why try again and again when your efforts bring you back to where you started.
So the wall will stay and somehow i will have to find another path one not so painful perhaps
I was asked to try again after this past week i had yet again given up
i stopped trying i stopped everything in hope somehow i would find a different way perhaps out of this pain
I can't or do i say i won't put me in a position of judgment ever again i won't
i need somehowto stop hitting this brick wall I need to find a way out of all this but i guess giving up is not the way not yet.
It just gets to the point of why try again and again when your efforts bring you back to where you started.
David Baxter PhD
Late Founder
That's when you take a night off to stoip thinking about it and get up the next day and say, "Okay! let's try that again - a different way".
Some ideas...
Sometimes I tend to look at something and I think things are waaay too complicated, even more so than they really are... Would it help to ask yourself something like "What would Obi Wan (or someone you really admire or look up to) do in this situation?" ... Or "Do I need to use less force and use more persuasion?" ... Or "Who or what do I need to do to get this looked after? Can I call a friend? Do I make a phone call? Do I poll the audience?" ... "If I looked at this thing from above, or from underneath, or on the far end instead of the near end, would I find a solution instead of looking at it head-on?"
Is it really giving up? Aren't you just taking a breath and relaxing and gathering strength for the next attempt? Can you meditate on it, listening to soft music, drinking chamomile tea, soaking in a hot bubble bath, or doodling or brainstorming on a piece of paper... Think about it, but in a relaxing manner... Can you imagine this issue as a concrete object that you can use visualiation to imagine your issue dissolving, and getting smaller and smaller, until it's just a little bit of fluff you can suck up with the vacuum cleaner... As it shrinks and dissolves and gets more pliable and crumbly, you could visualize that it would be easier to run into it and break through it.
Does it really matter how hard the obstacle is, or how many times you run into it? Or is it more important that you keep looking for a way to get around it or over it or under it... Sometimes obstacles in the mind are a lot harder to grapple with than things in the physical world. Maybe you're doing a great job, but just being too hard on yourself. Stuff that's worn a good deep rut in the mind is reeeeally challenging to fill in and try to train the mind to take a different route. You could even use visualization, you see the path you don't want to take anymore (because the brick wall is there and you still feel the goose egg on your skull from last time) and you climb out of that rut and get out your machete and whack away at a new trail you want to blaze. It'll be tough going, but you'll make progress, even though it might be slower than your original path.
But it's sometimes beneficial to go slowly through the rough then to keep going in that rut that leads to the same destination.... Sometimes you might find that you were making good progress and suddenly you hack away some branches and there's that damn brick wall again... So just keep hacking away at that jungle out there, because by golly there's got to be a way around that stubborn thing...
Sometimes I tend to look at something and I think things are waaay too complicated, even more so than they really are... Would it help to ask yourself something like "What would Obi Wan (or someone you really admire or look up to) do in this situation?" ... Or "Do I need to use less force and use more persuasion?" ... Or "Who or what do I need to do to get this looked after? Can I call a friend? Do I make a phone call? Do I poll the audience?" ... "If I looked at this thing from above, or from underneath, or on the far end instead of the near end, would I find a solution instead of looking at it head-on?"
Is it really giving up? Aren't you just taking a breath and relaxing and gathering strength for the next attempt? Can you meditate on it, listening to soft music, drinking chamomile tea, soaking in a hot bubble bath, or doodling or brainstorming on a piece of paper... Think about it, but in a relaxing manner... Can you imagine this issue as a concrete object that you can use visualiation to imagine your issue dissolving, and getting smaller and smaller, until it's just a little bit of fluff you can suck up with the vacuum cleaner... As it shrinks and dissolves and gets more pliable and crumbly, you could visualize that it would be easier to run into it and break through it.
Does it really matter how hard the obstacle is, or how many times you run into it? Or is it more important that you keep looking for a way to get around it or over it or under it... Sometimes obstacles in the mind are a lot harder to grapple with than things in the physical world. Maybe you're doing a great job, but just being too hard on yourself. Stuff that's worn a good deep rut in the mind is reeeeally challenging to fill in and try to train the mind to take a different route. You could even use visualization, you see the path you don't want to take anymore (because the brick wall is there and you still feel the goose egg on your skull from last time) and you climb out of that rut and get out your machete and whack away at a new trail you want to blaze. It'll be tough going, but you'll make progress, even though it might be slower than your original path.
But it's sometimes beneficial to go slowly through the rough then to keep going in that rut that leads to the same destination.... Sometimes you might find that you were making good progress and suddenly you hack away some branches and there's that damn brick wall again... So just keep hacking away at that jungle out there, because by golly there's got to be a way around that stubborn thing...
forgetmenot
MVP
Yes now if i could just get my brain to stop thinking lol that in itself would be a feat.
Itook the medication one to calm me and one for my pain
I start yet again tomorrow
i will keep my mind busy so i don't think i just react
Tonight i hope with both meds taken i will get some sleep
If i could i would truly chose to leave i would
One should be able to say enough is enough
I would like to leave being someone not that noone but I know i can't go not when there are other lives that will be affected by my choice
I see no way around this wall of pain right now
Stopping my meds i hoped it would just take all the dam clarity all the dam logic away i know stupid clouded thinking
Meds taken as i need to be able to be stable to be of any good to anyone but some day i pray my day will come when i will not have to fight anymore i will be able to just have peace sorry rambling i know what i want but i can't have it not yet.
Itook the medication one to calm me and one for my pain
I start yet again tomorrow
i will keep my mind busy so i don't think i just react
Tonight i hope with both meds taken i will get some sleep
If i could i would truly chose to leave i would
One should be able to say enough is enough
I would like to leave being someone not that noone but I know i can't go not when there are other lives that will be affected by my choice
I see no way around this wall of pain right now
Stopping my meds i hoped it would just take all the dam clarity all the dam logic away i know stupid clouded thinking
Meds taken as i need to be able to be stable to be of any good to anyone but some day i pray my day will come when i will not have to fight anymore i will be able to just have peace sorry rambling i know what i want but i can't have it not yet.
It's okay. I still need my meds to keep my mind from swirling around at light speed in a billion directions at once, too. 8P
Good for you goin' back on the meds. Watch out for those cold turkeys, they come back to bite you in the butt... Normally you need to wean yourself off gradually. Otherwise it's like jumping from a hot sauna into a polar swim... 8P Now that's cold turkey!
Good for you goin' back on the meds. Watch out for those cold turkeys, they come back to bite you in the butt... Normally you need to wean yourself off gradually. Otherwise it's like jumping from a hot sauna into a polar swim... 8P Now that's cold turkey!
forgetmenot
MVP
Day one is over soon day 2 will come soon enough taking the medication yet again
forgetmenot
MVP
up all night i hate night time waiting 4am finally a call tired but i can't sleep maybe one day
forgetmenot
MVP
i keep me busy all day i don't have time to let my mind wonder
I am sure i could be doing more for me but right now there is too much going on so i am kept busy all day then night comes and things happen and my mind won't shut down .
I just can't seem to do what it takes to keep me stable. My mind fights me every step of the way. It fights me i wish it didn't but it does.
I am sure i could be doing more for me but right now there is too much going on so i am kept busy all day then night comes and things happen and my mind won't shut down .
I just can't seem to do what it takes to keep me stable. My mind fights me every step of the way. It fights me i wish it didn't but it does.
forgetmenot
MVP
yes i a m to take med every night
some night i can do that other nights i can't i just cant dam
i see my therapist in two days. I am afraid you know so much going on
i am afraid of losing more people of watching them suffer oh it is so unfair this life it really is
i wish it was me who was ill and not her i wish it was me not her she is a fighter she has come so far she is the true fighter dam it
never mind sorry my therapist will help me i hope take away some of these fears ones i don't want to even look at
some night i can do that other nights i can't i just cant dam
i see my therapist in two days. I am afraid you know so much going on
i am afraid of losing more people of watching them suffer oh it is so unfair this life it really is
i wish it was me who was ill and not her i wish it was me not her she is a fighter she has come so far she is the true fighter dam it
never mind sorry my therapist will help me i hope take away some of these fears ones i don't want to even look at
It's always sad and painful to see a loved one suffer. The best we can do is give them the love and support they need, while reaching out oouserlves to our own support system to get the support we need during these difficult times.
Continue taking your medications as you have been doing and be sure to explain all these struggles you are having to your therapist in two days.
forgetmenot
MVP
took meds last night two of them now i all iwant to do is sleep so tired but if i don't take them i am so anxious hard to know what is best really
forgetmenot
MVP
It is me that keeps that wall up so high
It is me my mind just refuses to try
to step outside this comfort zone i am in
god what will it take until i realize
that if i want this to end i need to listen
i need to follow through with what t ask me
can i help it if my mind is programed to not be like them
to not take meds to not be judged
this mind of mine is the worst enemy i ever had
i just can do it i can't so it is my own doing then i am stuck here
i have noone to blame but me
It is ok i will take care of me somehow i will
It is me my mind just refuses to try
to step outside this comfort zone i am in
god what will it take until i realize
that if i want this to end i need to listen
i need to follow through with what t ask me
can i help it if my mind is programed to not be like them
to not take meds to not be judged
this mind of mine is the worst enemy i ever had
i just can do it i can't so it is my own doing then i am stuck here
i have noone to blame but me
It is ok i will take care of me somehow i will
forgetmenot
MVP
Trying so hard to break through
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