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David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
Let He Who Is Without Sin: OCD and Religion
By Fred Penzel, Ph.D.
Retrieved September 2011

If you had to sum up most of OCD in two words, they would be “pathological doubt.” OCD can cast doubt on almost any aspect of a person’s life and can force them to question almost anything they are, or anything they do. OCD is also extremely insidious and can infiltrate anything that matters to you. I have heard many of my patients state that “OCD seems to know how to pick on whatever will bother me the most.”

One particular area that is of great importance and sensitivity to many people is their religion and matters of religious practice. It is something that they would like to feel is the most certain in their lives. As you could guess, this turns out to be a prime target for obsessive thoughts. Religious obsessions can take on any of the following forms:

  • That the person has sinned or broken a religious law, or displeased their god in some way, either in the past or present, and may therefore go to hell or receive some other punishment
  • That prayers have been omitted or recited incorrectly
  • Repetitive blasphemous thoughts
  • Thoughts about impulsively saying blasphemous words or committing blasphemous acts while attending religious services
  • That the person has lost touch with God or their beliefs in some way
  • Thoughts of being “unworthy” of salvation in some way
  • Intrusive sexual thoughts about God, saints, religious figures, etc.
  • That the person, through negligence has broken religious laws concerning speech, dress, food preparation, modesty, etc.
  • Intrusive “bad” thoughts or images that occur during prayer, meditation, or other observances that “contaminate” and ruin or cancel out the value of these activities
  • Believing that one’s religious practice must be 100% perfect, or else it is worthless or worse
  • Thoughts of being possessed


Naturally, the stronger a sufferer’s beliefs, or the more orthodox their sect, the more distressful and upsetting these symptoms can be. There are many who, no doubt, suffer in silence, feeling too embarrassed or worried that they will be thought crazy or branded as religious outcasts. When people do seek help, they often turn first to their religious leaders. If they are fortunate, this person will have at least some understanding of problems of this type. If not, their revelations may be met with skepticism, criticism, or passed off as “nothing to worry about.” In the worst cases, individuals are treated harshly, and told that they really are sinful and that their religious practice needs to be improved. They may even be instructed to do penance in some way, only worsening the belief that they have truly done something wrong. Even where a religious leader is sympathetic, consistent compulsive questioning and phone calling for reassurance by a sufferer can wear them down to the point where they become angry or impatient. After all, they are only human, and OCD, in truth, probably could try the patience of a saint.

If obsessions are intrusive, unpleasant thoughts, compulsions are the mental and physical activities that people with OCD come up with as a way of dealing with them. Since doubt is what drives most OCD, the answer, as OC sufferers see it, is to do, know, and control everything in a compulsively perfect way. When everything is perfect, there is no room for doubt. Compulsions start out as solutions, but inevitably become a large part of the problem themselves. On the surface, they may have some resemblance to religious practices, but are often exaggerated and extreme behaviors that are out of control. Some typical compulsions that are used in response to religious obsessions might include:

  • Saying prayers, or carrying out religious acts repetitively until they are done perfectly (a process that can last for hours)
  • Saying prayers or crossing oneself a special magical number of times
  • Constantly asking for God’s forgiveness, or telling God that you didn’t mean what you said or did
  • Rereading passages from holy books over and over to make sure nothing was misunderstood or missed
  • Repeatedly asking religious leaders or authorities the same questions on religious practice to be sure of understanding the answer, or to get reassurance about specific acts or words being sinful
  • Double checking different religious acts or observances to be sure they were done correctly
  • Repeatedly reviewing past thoughts or actions to determine if they were sinful or not
  • Protecting religious symbols, ornaments, books, or pictures from “contamination”
  • Constantly reviewing one’s own words or phrases for double meanings that might have been irreligious or blasphemous
  • Trying to imagine special “good” religious images or thoughts to cancel out “bad” and irreligious images or thoughts
  • When any activity was performed with a blasphemous thought in mind, having to redo it with a “good” thought
  • Excessive confessing of religious misdeeds or sinful behaviors to obtain forgiveness or reassurance
  • Having to carry out religious dietary, dress, or appearance codes perfectly

This list by no means exhausts the possibilities. They are almost endless.

Treatment for religiously oriented OCD is in most ways, similar to that of any other form of the disorder—behavioral therapy in the form of Exposure and Response Prevention (E&RP) and possibly medication. The general principles of behavioral treatment for OCD involve gradually confronting obsessions while resisting the doing of compulsions. In this way, the sufferer slowly builds up tolerance to the thoughts and their anxiety as they retrain themselves to not respond compulsively. Those with OCD typically make things worse for themselves by trying to follow their instincts in avoiding or trying to escape the things that make them anxious. In their zeal to eliminate all possibilities of doubt and risk, they do not stay with what they fear long enough to learn the truth. Unlike other forms of OCD, the facing of religious obsessions has some particular problems that must be carefully addressed. These issues would include the following:

  1. Religion involves intangible matters of faith that cannot be seen, touched, or discussed from a scientific or logical point of view, in the way many other OCD problems cannot be seen, touched, or discussed from a scientific or logical pint of view in the way many other OCD problems can.
  2. In order to confront blasphemous thoughts and images, sufferers need to carry out behavioral homework assignments that superficially also look irreligious, but really aren’t. Sufferers may be asked to agree with their unacceptable thoughts, or say or do things that bring on their anxieties, as they resist doing compulsions. Religious leaders who are consulted but don’t understand may not be willing to give their approval for such an approach. Fortunately, there is a growing body of these people who can make the distinction between a psychiatric illness and sinfulness.
  3. The consequences of being sinful or blasphemous may not be immediate, but could occur after a person’s death far in the future
  4. Behavioral homework may not involve simply doing things the way that ordinary people do (using the stove normally, driving without double checking, etc.), as when facing other types of OC fears, but may require the person to overcompensate somewhat in the opposite direction so that they can eventually find the middle ground

Getting people to engage in E&RP for their religious obsessions can be tricky, owing to some of the above issues. Matters of faith can get involved here in ways that make the planning and doing of homework a delicate maneuver.

In order to be able to get a perspective on these issues so that treatment may proceed, there are a number of understandings that must be established between patient and therapist. The most important one is that religious obsessions really have nothing to do with true religion as it is understood. They are biochemical aberrations, and therefore not a person’s own real thoughts. They are, as a patient of mine once said, “synthetic thoughts.” While the problem may superficially appear to be a religious one, it could really be about anything that OCD chooses to pick on. As said earlier, OCD has an uncanny way of picking on things that will bother a person the most. When a person is in the midst of OCD, it can be quite difficult to be objective and to see that these are not one’s own real thoughts. A phrase many of my patients use is, “But it seems so real.”

When a person is asked to confront their thoughts and actually confront their fears by allowing that they are true, it can sometimes be difficult for them to see that they are not doing this to mock, belittle, or speak badly of their own beliefs, but are instead engaging in treatment. There are usually three points I like to make to patients before beginning therapy. These are:

  1. That if God or one’s particular deity sees and knows everything, then they would have to know that the person is doing these exercises as treatment, and not to be irreligious. They would understand that the person is simply trying to break out of OCD in order to become closer to their God and more appropriate in their observance.
  2. That what they have been doing up until this time is not correct and appropriate religious observance, but is compulsive and outside the norm, and cannot continue if they wish to be appropriately observant according to the dictates of their faith.
  3. That they are being asked to do some things that on the surface may look religiously inappropriate in order to get them over their anxieties, so that they can return to what is considered appropriate religious practice. What they have been doing up until this time in terms of compulsions would also have to be considered religiously inappropriate. Unless they build some kind of tolerance to the thoughts and anxieties, they will remain prisoners of their OCD.

Recovering from OCD means taking risks, and this means letting go, not just in the sense of letting go of compulsions, but also in terms of letting go of that need for certainty in the face of obsessive doubt. Doing certain types of behavioral homework assignments for OCD may sometimes make a person feel as if they are jeopardizing their immortal soul, but there are times when in order to prevail over the illness, they have to take a leap of faith. There is a very good saying that is used by the members of Alcoholics Anonymous: “Let go, let God.” My own interpretation of this for our purposes is that, if you have faith and truly believe, you sometimes have to put yourself into God’s hands and trust that you will be guided in the right direction.

It is also important for patients to understand that they will not have to go on doing these types of assignments indefinitely - only until they reach the point of recovery.

Can everyone get past their obsessive religious fears in order to take what look like risks in the service of recovering? The answer is that not everyone can. Although I have seen quite a number of people recover from this particular type of OCD, not everyone is ready or able to recover at a given time, nor may they have the insight to see what is really happening. Some people find their thoughts extremely believable, due to the magnitude of their biochemical problem. Their fear of damnation or punishment at a particular time may override their desire to reach a recovery. However, if an OCD sufferer can accept and understand the true nature of treatment, they stand a better chance of improving. They need to accept that the subject matter of the thoughts involves the very aspects of their lives about which they want to be the most certain. Faith has helped many individuals overcome great obstacles in life, and when correctly channeled, it can also help to overcome OCD.

Fred Penzel, Ph.D. is a licensed psychologist who has specialized in the treatment of OCD and related disorders since 1982. He is the executive director of Western Suffolk Psychological Services in Huntington, Long Island, New York, a private treatment group specializing in OCD and O-C related problems, and is a founding member of the OCF Science Advisory Board. His website is thttp://www.wsps.info . Dr. Penzel is the author of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders: A Complete Guide To Getting Well And Staying Well, a self-help book covering OCD and other O-C spectrum disorders.
 

Daniel E.

daniel@psychlinks.ca
Administrator
My Journey With OCD by Joan McGrath
Winter 2011 OCD Newsletter :acrobat:
International OCD Foundation

...Many people say: “What is scrupulosity?” The book The Doubting Disease – Help for Scrupulosity and Religious Compulsions [published in 1995] by Joseph Ciarrocchi reveals that studies have shown scrupulosity as the fifth most common form of OCD. The scrupulous mind works by dramatically overreacting to perceived failures. When religion is involved, the scrupulous mind sees something wrong where there is nothing wrong. The scrupulous person judges some behavior as immoral that his or her faith community would see as blameless in comparison. Sufferers of scrupulosity around the world share their own versions of nightmarish thoughts. They have persistent, irrational, unwanted beliefs and thoughts about doing the wrong thing, saying the wrong thing, not being devout or moral enough, not saying their prayers properly, repeating and repeating prayers, etc., despite all evidence to the contrary.

But, Dr. Ciarrocchi’s book was published in 1995 and the time I am writing about was 1964 when I was 28 years old: that is a 31 year difference. Up to this point, I thought most of my thinking was somewhat normal; I was just a perfectionist. But with my scrupulosity problem, the irrational way I was thinking really came to light.

I didn’t know what to do. I knew something was really wrong with me. I had accepted that something was wrong. I went to a psychiatrist, who proved to be very helpful, but at the time, there was no diagnosis for OCD, there was no tried-and-true method of treatment like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Exposure and Response Prevention therapy, and there was no such medication as an SSRI. There was no explanation of why my mind would not and could not manage the symptoms I was experiencing...

I went back to my doctor and to church to talk to a priest. The priest told me to go to confession only once a year and to not even think about “sin”. I listened and obeyed that advice. The priest was my authority, and that gave me the confidence I needed. I knew my thinking was irrational. From that point on, my experience of faith has served as a source of peace and strength, as it should.

In 1971, through networking, I joined a support group, “Recovery Inc.”, whose mission was to make available a self-help method to improve mental health. At a Recovery meeting people volunteer to give an example of a situation they had to deal with and then how they used the Recovery tools to deal with it. As an example, one could get upset and anxious about preparing for the holidays. At the Recovery meeting, the first step would be to describe the event, including your temperamental reaction. In the second step you would describe your symptoms and discomfort. The third step would explain how you managed this situation.

For example:

* Fearful anticipation is worse than any reality
* Everything is a triviality compared to my mental health
* My negative thoughts and feelings come from a nervous imbalance
* Fears must be confronted and patterns of behavior reversed
* Imagination on Fire
* Have the will to bear discomfort and comfort will come

Think about it--if you say to yourself your imagination is on fire, you are seeing the symptom for what it is. It’s imagination. And that is accepting the fact that your symptoms are caused by an overactive imagination,
and this ultimately reduces your emotional response, clarifies the reality, and helps change your attitude toward nervous symptoms and fears. It also serves to take the symptom and nip it in the bud, avoiding what
can become a vicious cycle...
 

Daniel E.

daniel@psychlinks.ca
Administrator
The Clergy as Healers: Up to the 1600s
OCDHistory.net (retrievied 12/27/11)

In early centuries, OCD sufferers sought help mostly from the clergy. The clergy became quite familiar with OCD because of their day-to-day dealings with troubled parishioners.

In the late 1600s, several English clergymen wrote down advice for how to deal with Os and Cs. These "self-help" writings, by Richard Baxter and others, probably were very helpful to the OCD sufferers of that era. It is no coincidence that these writings appeared during the period in history called the Age of Enlightment. Even the Enlightenment philosopher John Locke wrote an essay on scrupulosity.

The clergy's books emphasized that fear (anxiety) underlies Os and Cs. Anglican bishop John Moore pointed out how trying to suppress distressing thoughts can make them worse. The clergy's books were also heavy on practical advice, such as seeking the company of other people and keeping oneself steadily occupied.

Some early autobiographical accounts of OCD appeared. Ignatius of Loyola (1500s), John Bunyan (1666) and Hannah Allen (1683) wrote such accounts. The earliest firsthand account is by Margery Kempe (1436), whose book about her life is said to be the first autobiography ever written in English.

Roman Catholic writers stressed that the way to overcome Os and Cs was through absolute obedience to one's spiritual advisor in matters concerning the Os and Cs. This stress on obedience became most prominent in the writings of Alphonsus de Liguori (1696-1787), who himself probably suffered from OCD. Another Catholic theologian, Giovanni Battista Scaramelli (1687-1752), gave advice on how to overcome Os and Cs that sounds a lot like behavior therapy.

By the late 1600s, the clergy had developed significant psychological insight into Os and Cs. But their role in treating such conditions was being challenged by the medical profession. A paradigm shift was underway.

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Related Wikipedia article: Scrupulosity
 
Can self injury be considered a compulsion if it is done in response to OCD thoughts? Like I must punish myself over certain religious thoughts or fears?
 

David Baxter PhD

Late Founder
Can self injury be considered a compulsion if it is done in response to OCD thoughts? Like I must punish myself over certain religious thoughts or fears?

Yes. Self-injury is a symptom so it can have more than one "cause" but in some cases it fits the definition of a compulsive behavior to a T.
 

Daniel E.

daniel@psychlinks.ca
Administrator



One panel member / scientist says that uncertainty is bad/stressful/unhealthy for brain. So one benefit of religion is managing such uncertainty.

Another panel member countered that stress from uncertainty is actually a helpful adaption by motivating more information gathering.

TOPICS:
0:00 - Introduction
01:05 - Overview of religious beliefs
12:15 - Panelist intros
14:27 - Panelists share personal religious beliefs
18:28 - Broadening our views of belief
19:15 - Do other animals have a sense of spirituality?
20:50 - What is evolutionary psychology?
27:51 - Are humans wired for belief?
32:36 - Is there evidence of an internal predilection of religious belief?
37:46 - Searching for the origin of religious belief
45:21 - Is there an adaptive value of religious belief?
49:31 - Advantages of religious belief relating to the nervous system
55:24 - Why has religion persisted for so long?
1:00:30 - Religion as an emotional response vs a social mechanism
1:08:20 - The future of the role of religion
1:14:15 - What would aliens think of our religious beliefs?
 
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