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Stick-thin still in for models at NY fashion shows
Wed Sep 12, 2007
By Martinne Geller, New York Times

NEW YORK (Reuters) - In the first big shows since it tried to address the problem of stick-thin models, the U.S. fashion industry seems to have cast the issue off like last season's styles and the models still looked emaciated.

Before the fall shows in February, the Council of Fashion Designers of America, the U.S. industry's trade group, issued guidelines teaching models about nutrition, banning those under 16 from runways and offering healthy food backstage, with no smoking or alcohol.

But the issue failed to generate much controversy beyond the catwalks, and consumers did not spurn designers who used ultra-thin models, experts say.

"What a shame, that it was such a big deal last season, and now nobody seems to have noticed that the models have not gained an ounce," said David A. Wolfe, creative director of The Doneger Group trend forecasters.

And the elaborate folds and puffy sleeves in many spring styles helped keep the issue under wraps in the shows at New York's Fashion Week, which concluded on Wednesday.

Now no one is even talking about it, Wolfe said, partly because the newest outfits show less skin.

"Longer hemlines are covering the toothpick legs," he said. "The full skirts are covering the jutting hip-bones."

Models have long been skinny but their weight became a hot topic after two Latin American models died of anorexia last year. Critics say fashion's obsession with waif-like frames leads young women to dislike their bodies.

Milan fashion houses responded by barring ultra-skinny and under-age models. But Milan remains the only city of the four world centers of fashion -- the others being New York, London and Paris -- to enact an outright ban.

WALKING CLOTHES HANGERS?
Debra Bass, a fashion editor at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, said she had not expected much to change.

Designers have a certain look and "the market supports that," she said. "Until it starts becoming a financial issue where people stop buying their clothes because they're showing unattractive images, it's never really going to affect them."

Hannah Davis, a 17-year-old model from the Virgin Islands, said designers seem to prefer the skinniest models.

"Basically, they want a clothes hanger walking down the runway," she said backstage at the Tracy Reese show. "They want a girl that has no curves."

Reese said she seeks models who are healthy. "You don't want to hire somebody who looks hungry or like she's starving herself," she said.

Designer Zac Posen said the clothes he makes "come to life" more on women with curves.

"We design a collection that can work on a diversity of bodies," Posen said. "It's not toothpick fashion."

A wave of very thin male models, appearing in shows in Europe, may be poised to show in New York, Wolfe said.

"Practically every designer who thinks they're edgy is now using a pack of boys who really are as skinny as the skinniest girls," Wolfe said. "I think by next year they will be here. It's like an alien invasion."
 

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Hannah Davis, a 17-year-old model from the Virgin Islands, said designers seem to prefer the skinniest models.

"Basically, they want a clothes hanger walking down the runway," she said backstage at the Tracy Reese show. "They want a girl that has no curves."

Just a thought here:
Perhaps the designers want to use these very thin models because it takes the attention away from the model and so people focus on the clothes.
IMO, these very thin models with no curves are not very attractive.
If they used models that were too attractive, maybe people (especially men) would not focus their attention to the clothes, but on the model instead.
 

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But it seems to me that if they used more real models it would enhance the clothing they are trying to sell, not detract from it.
 
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Unfortunately, anorexic looking models are influencing how society in general perceive the look of youthful femininity or what a woman should look like.

When i was in my teens, i became anorexic reaching a dangerously low weight and, what fueled my obsession was that i wanted protruding hip bones thinking this was "womanly curves". It took many years for me to understand and accept that it is fat deposit on the hip bones than give the appearance of curves. What made my struggle with anorexia and self-image even harder, is the fact that i have small hip bones and no fat cells on my hips.

I often wondered if this "stick-thin" modeling of women is not a male-stream tactic to boost masculine desire to feel like the "protector" of the "weakest vase" or is it to feel more "powerful" than the opposite sexe? In any case, there are just as many "insecure" women who fall for this body manipulation to perhaps satisfy their own desires to feel worthy of being "protected" with maybe the bonus of being showered by a man with expensive clothing and accessories lol.

Food for thought,

Jos?e
 

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I often wondered if this "stick-thin" modeling of women is not a male-stream tactic to boost masculine desire to feel like the "protector" of the "weakest vase" or is it to feel more "powerful" than the opposite sex?

How many males do you know who find "stick thin" attractive? I've often thought this is generated more by women in the fashion industry than by men. I know that I look at those women and they look unhealthy, ill to me. And not all models are stick thin - the really top ones are thin but not anorexic-looking. It's almost as if the ones trying to catch them think, "I have to be even skinnier if I hope to beat her".
 
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Well...different strokes for different folks; to all their tastes and preferences. What i've noticed is that thin women are more sought after by men and women for a greater variety of role playing (not talking about extremes) as opposed to the fat or muscular ones. Like i said, it can be food for thought...

Josée
 

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thin women are more sought after by men and women for a greater variety of role playing (not talking about extremes) as opposed to the fat or muscular ones

But that's not what we're talking about here - the women in question ARE "extremes", and dangerously so.
 
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I?m not trying to side swipe the issue David. I know there are extreme cases like in everything else. If you want to talk about how to stop these women prancing down a runway like clothe hangers or stopping those who pay them big bucks to do it, go ahead. What about those business people and socialites who buy outrageously expensive tickets to sit and watch the runway shows? Who can afford designer clothes anyway besides high class entertainers? What makes all these people click? Who are they trying to entertain anyway? Mirror mirror on the wall? I could ramble on but I have to vacuum my house in my jeans and t-shirt. Cleaning keeps me fit?on an inexpensive clothes budget lol

Blessings,

Jos?e
 

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