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MrsK

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Hello everyone,

I haven't posted here much as I haven't seen my N mother for about 5 months.

These last few years (even before I realised that she had NPD) I have been emotionally distancing myself from my mother. I have always been her primary source of N supply, and she normally got her supply by terrorising me with her fits of rage and emotional manipulation and guilt-trips. 4 years ago my younger brother was hospitalised for an acute episode psychosis, and this incident and the following years revealed her true character to me and really opened my eyes.

I live in a different country and therefore do not see her very often. When I first moved, I would keep in touch with very frequent phonecalls and emails, so when I started distancing myself the first thing I did was to drastically decrease the phone calls. Around this same time I met my now fiance and started working full time after graduating from university, so I no longer had as much free time for phone calls anyway, and therefore she couldn't really call me on it.

In the autumn of 2010, something really changed in the dynamic between me and my mum. My brother had been hospitalised again earlier that year, and during one of my visits she launched a full assault and personal attack out of the blue. She accused me of thinking that it was her fault that my brother had been hospitalised (she said she could tell from the way I was looking at her), and then she went on to accuse me of not caring about my brother (a blatant lie and she knew it, as my brother and I have always been very close). I got so frustrated with her behaviour that I, for the first time, really raised my voice to her and shouted back. I think she had expected me to cower and apologise to her, so my unexpected reaction must have terrified her. Shortly after this, I cancelled my planned Christmas visit and instead made arrangements to celebrate with my fiance and his parents. We are now celebrating Christmas with his parents every other year.

After this attack, I decreased my phone calls to her even more, as I had reached my limit and was no longer willing to put up with her behaviour. I kept in more regular touch with my father. After a few months of low-contact, she made my dad call me to tell me "Your mother thinks that you no longer want anything to do with her". At the time I didn't realise what a deliberate manipulation this was, so I made my first phone call to her in a month. The background to this is that my mum cut off contact with her own narcissistic mother when I was 9 or 10 years old, and throughout my childhood she kept telling me that she hoped that I wouldn't have a bad relationship with her as an adult. I recognise now that this was another manipulation tactic, as she was placing the burden of maintaining our relationship solely on me.

So for the Christmas of 2012, we celebrated Christmas with my parents-in-law. In early December, my mother called me to inform me that my youngest brother was not coming to visit my parents for Christmas as he had arranged to celebrate with his parents-in-law. My mum then went on to tell me that my other brother (the one who had been hospitalised before) was now dreading Christmas as it was only going to be him and my parents. She was clearly doing this so that I would change my own plans, and when I didn't take the bait she said "I suppose you and your fiance don't want to spend Christmas apart..?" in a final attempt to pressure me into changing my Christmas plans. I told her that changing my plans was out of the question, as we were alternating every year between our two sets of parents. She then kept pushing "But next year, I think you should come here for Christmas", even though I told her in 2010 that from now on we are ALTERNATING. After this phone call I phoned my dad's sister (whom my mother doesn't really like, but she can't show her dislike because my dad is very close to his sister), and I asked my aunt to invite my parents and my brother for Christmas. I did this because I knew that my brother would like that, and also to make the point to my mother that I will not succumb to her attempts at manipulating me. I also knew that my mother couldn't turn down the invitation without looking bad.

So now it's February and I haven't spoken on the phone to my mum (except for a couple of very brief phone calls) since Christmas, and I am now going to visit my parents in a few days. I am very apprehensive about this visit as I suspect my mother is angry with me for not changing my Christmas plans, and probably also for arranging the Christmas celebration with my aunt. The last time I visited she was suddenly acting very nice and understanding, which I realise was just a tactic to make me let my guard down. I worry that she will pull some crazy stunt this time now that she's had some time to reconsider her tactics.

Any advice as to how to behave around my mother when I now see her? What seems to work most of the time is to act unemotional at all times, but sometimes that angers her because she thinks I'm being condescending and "thinking horrible things about her". I am in the process of creating boundaries for myself, but I am not sure if the best tactic for now is to lay low and leave the room when she tries to launch an attack, or to actually confront her when she tries to overstep the boundaries.
 
confront her state what boundaries are and if she cannot stay withing boundaries you will not talk to her any further and walk away go outside go for a drive but don't deal with her

She will not change hun so you have to change ok how you confront her and what you will deal with hugs
 
Firstly, do you have a therapist to whom you can ask these questions? Is this how you found out that your mother has NPD. Has a therapist that you have gone to you given you tools or information on what to do? I have an Nmom and I found going to a therapist gave me the tools to learn how to set boundaries and feel confident about myself and how to calm myself in anxious situations. I also learned that my Nmom, and most people with NPD, have a hard time recovering or changing because they just don't believe anything is wrong with themselves. They think that everyone else is wrong but them.

Secondly, why are you visiting your parents in the first place? If there is no way to change these plans, then, on to my third question....


Thirdly, do you have an alternative plan? That is, can you leave the same day, or next day, or earlier than you first planned? If that is not the case, do you have anyone else you can stay with? If that is not an option, did you plan for the possibility that you might go to a hotel/motel and just spend the majority of your vacation enjoying the sights and attractions on your own, as a family (husband, yourself and your children), and just visit your parents for an hour or a few hours a day (or one day out of a week)...


To actually address your main question more directly:
"Any advice as to how to behave around my mother when I now see her? What seems to work most of the time is to act unemotional at all times, but sometimes that angers her because she thinks I'm being condescending and "thinking horrible things about her". I am in the process of creating boundaries for myself, but I am not sure if the best tactic for now is to lay low and leave the room when she tries to launch an attack, or to actually confront her when she tries to overstep the boundaries."

My first advice: You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you show no/little emotion she gets paranoid. If you show any/confrontational emotions she will use it as proof that you are the unstable one, find reasons to turn it around and project her faults onto you, or figure out which buttons to push another time, or fuel for her gossip. Personally I would just leave the room without confrontation. Because that will take away her power. If you engage, try to remain calm, keep it short and say something like, "If you keep yelling, I am going to walk away. I will stay if you remain calm and speak to me like you are an adult speaking to another adult." If you walk away and she follows you, try to walk outside or into a room with more people in it. She might stop when there are other people present and watching. Worst case scenario, if you can't lock yourself in a room with headphones go for a drive. When you come back, calmly pack your things and leave.

The thing about pretending you aren't feeling riled up is that you must find another time to release your pain and anger and grief, otherwise you are just doing what she wants you to do: stuffing down your feelings, denying the right to feel something, etc. Which is why you would do yourself some good if you weren't staying at her house with her for the entire vacation.

If you plan to be anywhere near your mother, try to make sure you are not alone with her if you can help it. If you are ever alone with her she is more likely to act out on you because you can't prove it to anyone else. Again, I would make contingency plans, back up plans, etc so that if she gets in your face you can leave at your convenience, and perhaps as calmly as possible, because you were prepared and don't feel stuck in a situation you have no control over.

Speaking of control: the most control you have is when you are on your home turf, right? She's lost the upper hand because you are in your house, communicating on your terms, etc... If you are in HER house, she feels she has the advantage. She thinks she can put you in "your place" and not expect a fight because she thinks you'll "respect her in her own house." But she doesn't respect you in anyone's house, is the thing.

Boundaries are best made BEFORE the trip. Email or call or communicate directly with her (not triangulated through dad like she did for you): "Mom, we can't stay the entire time at the house but we have lots of time we can spend with you while we stay in a hotel."
"Mom, if you do X, we will either leave early for home or go spend the rest of the vacation on our own or with people who enjoy our company and don't make us feel like you make us feel." And do it. Follow through. Maybe next time she'll hold her tongue when you come to visit. Maybe not. Repetition and the will to follow through is key. You can't bluff, because she'll try to call you on it.

These are just my opinions. This is what I would do. Although, I've been NC/No Contact since May 2011. THAT is what found ME the peace I currently enjoy.

Good luck! ♥
 
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